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How are people bored already?

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Execs
01.14.2012 , 01:30 PM | #191
Quote: Originally Posted by Daedricshots View Post
I rotate between 3 classes leveling and pvp. Unless you're 50 and sitting around waiting for people to catch up i dont understand how people are getting bored. Maybe its the notorious new mmo grind but i find it to be necessary to change up your classes instead of sticking with one all the way to 50.
Same planets, same quests same guy every class wants to kill to get there title...

Same small bgs... same slow *** walking then slow *** speeder at 25..


O and u can only do the fp's so many time b4 ur space barring everything.

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CharagonIGN
01.14.2012 , 01:32 PM | #192
I'm not even 50 and I'm bored. Questing has become a grind and mobs are getting stupidly strong. It's a pain in the *** to get a group together to run flashpoints. PvP is pointless until they separate out the 50s. And there's not even anything to do on the AH because the market sucks so bad.

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Loekii
01.14.2012 , 01:33 PM | #193
Quote: Originally Posted by Celebrath View Post

I really don't know what some people want.

I think you answered you own question right here -- as well as some others.

If you are enjoying the game, and/or feel the game could not have been better, doesn't mean others must feel the same way.

Not Happy with the State of TOR?

Cancel your subscription until you see BW improve the game to your liking. Vote with your Wallet.

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Daedricshots
01.14.2012 , 01:33 PM | #194
Quote: Originally Posted by Duaragon View Post
Just the contrary [im no hater by all means i do enjoyed the game and mostly the solo pve part like bloddy hell and im now rising my republic character to 50 having sith assasin already farmed up with end game mods for dailies - in the simple words i quite tried everything whats TOR offers including raids] - the game have quite mediocore end-game, but the problem is it is all quite boring.

Lets face it - gathering pve and pvp gear is a mindless boring grind and i doubt this is the way to make the gameplay longer just to say "our game offer so long content".
The solo part is great, flashpoints and ops are nice, pvp sux a little due to the fact we have 3wz only and they kinda boring when you do them all the time.

The point is - instead of enjoying the game and some challenges it could offer we ended up doing hardcore boring grind, doing pvp dailies and weekly quests, and grinding in wz all the time [at least thats how end-game is for me since i do want to get champion and centurion set due to the fact those sets are nice designed and will become fully moodable in the future - but im forced to do boring grind just because devs didnt gived us the fair and easy customisation options, not like i want the champion gear to be mega pvp player, when i get it i will prbably abbandon pvp for a long long time due to the fact im bored with it like hell...]
Funny i could say the exact same things in your reply that i said about wow and promptly quit playing it.

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Korghal
01.14.2012 , 01:34 PM | #195
I like to play games, in that i mean i like do actually use my hands and fingers, push buttons and use my wit to outsmart things. If i would play SWTOR as Bioware wants us to play it i would be watching it like a bad movie for atleast 50% of the time. Cause if you really check conversations, the choices that are made most of them are really really bad. Regular RPG games have better conversations then this, which is understandable.

What people seems to think is that the more voiceover the better, which i clearly am against.

Ive played a Smuggler/Gunslinger til 50 and a Tropper/Commando til 38. And all other characters till 10/11(leaving starter planets). And the story is far from great, i wouldnt even call it good. I would call it "ok".

Perhaps this game is not for me then? Perhaps thats true, i dont know. All i know is that the storyline conversations are extremely badly written, and it seems like its done by gamers not by real novelists. As a gamer since the late 1980's, a lover of many books and storys this game when i comes to story is sub par(in my humble opinion).

This is why alot of people are bored i think, we skipped the story like you say. But not cause we are impatient, but beacuse it wasnt worth listening too.

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Mannic
01.14.2012 , 01:35 PM | #196
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Since boredom is a state of mind, and exists only within your mind, yeah, it is your own responsibility.

Note I said responsibility, not fault (blame and faultfinding is a mind trick you play on yourself to maintain the status quo as a victim).

You must take responsibility because you are the person whose mind is bored.

Change what you give yourself for experience, or change your mind about what you are doing. Or, do nothing and remain bored. The choice is yours, and yours alone. You have complete and total autonomy to address an issue that is within you.

Blaming anyone or anything for your boredom is simply ignoring what you need to do for yourself. It's a ploy your mind uses to trick you into feeling powerless and unable to control your experience.
I'm sorry, but the way you keep reeeeeeeaching for some kind of logical foundation for a purely subjective opinion is making me not even want to bother responding to you.

Your argument can be used to justify any form of bad entertainment or faulty product. It's all "in the mind of consumer" and it's the "responsibility of the consumer to adjust his mindset to make the product more acceptable."

What you are saying is that it's the responsibility of the consumer who feels buyer's remorse to remedy his congitive dissonance by constructing an internal paradigm that rationalizes away the things that are causing the remorse. It doesn't work that way. Something either bores you or it doesn't. TOR doesn't bore you because playing 8 alts at once and running through the same content over and over and over and over again doesn't bore you. Congratulations. No amount of rationalization is going to make your playstyle anything less than excrucitating to me. And rationalization is exactly what you apparently expect "reasonable" people to do.

You are basically asserting that it's my job or resonsibility to deceive myself into enjoying the game.

Oh, and you left off one option for how to deal with boredom. Your options are, essentially;

1. Self-deception (I actually like this game way more than I think I do and the things that I don't like about it are my own fault.)

2. Do nothing and remain bored.

The third option of course is the most rational of all.

3. Find something else to do with your time other than that which is boring you.

And it's option 3 that Bioware wants to avoid. Because, sorry, if this game continues to bore me, I'm not going to "adjust my own attitude" to make it less boring. I'll leave and do something that doesn't bore me, or at least doesn't cost me money to be boring.

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Loekii
01.14.2012 , 01:36 PM | #197
Quote: Originally Posted by Execs View Post
Same planets, same quests same guy every class wants to kill to get there title...

Same small bgs... same slow *** walking then slow *** speeder at 25..


O and u can only do the fp's so many time b4 ur space barring everything.


While overly simplistic, I do think this is a rather accurate summary.


There is not enough diversity among things, to help mask the simplicity of the game progression.

A successful way to address the 'grind' of leveling, is to disguise it enough that players do not immediately see it. Imo, BW failed to do this.

The story and VO's are interesting, but only to a point. Without other stronger ways to mask the grind, the VO/Story become a grind as well --- ergo why so many are 'spacebaring' so soon, imo.
Not Happy with the State of TOR?

Cancel your subscription until you see BW improve the game to your liking. Vote with your Wallet.

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Archetypee
01.14.2012 , 01:37 PM | #198
Quote: Originally Posted by Slightlycampana View Post
Because people had very high expectations. Never have high expectations of a newly launched MMO

The people who bought the game to play through the storylines and/or have less time to play and/or take their time levelling are still meandering their way through the levelling. They are mostly enjoying themselves because so far they have been given the game they wanted.

The people who bought the game for the MMO experience and/or who are competitive, efficient levellers and/or are not interested in the story are disappointed because the game did not meet their expectations and they do not have the game they wanted.
This is the first MMO I have played where I am both working and going to school. This means that this is the first MMO where I did not rush to the max level to do high level content. I am absolutely enjoying myself in game anytime I play and I am only level 40. There are a lot of bugs in the game, which I do find very frustrating (I am being effected by more bugs in this MMO then any other I have played).

That said, I think if I had done my usual routine of level very fast to 50 and trying to complete high level content/pvp I would be bored at the moment. I am really hoping for some additions to open world PVP, as those can be very exciting and fun for a very long time. I'm thinking DAoC Frontier.
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LeSamourai
01.14.2012 , 01:37 PM | #199
Quote: Originally Posted by Korghal View Post
I like to play games, in that i mean i like do actually use my hands and fingers, push buttons and use my wit to outsmart things. If i would play SWTOR as Bioware wants us to play it i would be watching it like a bad movie for atleast 50% of the time. Cause if you really check conversations, the choices that are made most of them are really really bad. Regular RPG games have better conversations then this, which is understandable.

What people seems to think is that the more voiceover the better, which i clearly am against.

Ive played a Smuggler/Gunslinger til 50 and a Tropper/Commando til 38. And all other characters till 10/11(leaving starter planets). And the story is far from great, i wouldnt even call it good. I would call it "ok".

Perhaps this game is not for me then? Perhaps thats true, i dont know. All i know is that the storyline conversations are extremely badly written, and it seems like its done by gamers not by real novelists. As a gamer since the late 1980's, a lover of many books and storys this game when i comes to story is sub par(in my humble opinion).

This is why alot of people are bored i think, we skipped the story like you say. But not cause we are impatient, but beacuse it wasnt worth listening too.
Slightly OT, but have you checked out the Empire side of things? I was deadset on playing Republic from the getgo, but beta quickly changed that for me. Seriously, Empire side is WAY better written (still corny, but on the whole a better designed story, with more obvious effort put into it)

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romandaemon
01.14.2012 , 01:38 PM | #200
Quote: Originally Posted by Mannic View Post
This argument is now moot. The game has been out long enough that anyone who has played during normal "TV-time" after work can be level 50. At some point you guys are going to have to stop falling back on this. It made sense a week after launch. The game is a month old for most players and it no longer carries any weight. Pretty sure next month at this time we're still going to be hearing defenders using this increasingly irrelevant argument.


Well disagree here. I only have 1toon, play casually 4 nights a week, maybe 3 hours a sitting and still am not 50. Close at 42 though. I think 6-8 Weeks is about an average time to take an average player to get to 50. Unless of course you play 4 or 5 hours every single night...but that's hardly a definition of average casual....

There are other games to play as well, sometimes that's easy to forget...not like this is the only game a person might play all the time...
I find your lack of faith disturbing...