Mitigation, the REAL problem. Also, operatives need a 2x dmg multiplier.

Bump, to over come the obvious Ops are over powered posts because that is an acknowledged fact.

Bumping because I am a PvP tank

Flawed PvP killed a major title about 1 year ago, that game is now F2P.

yep if ops are op the what are these classes :

here watch these video:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oalB2bBRas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GmVuhHJVg8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=U2U6S2EJ1Zw

Any class can hit 9k with gear, thats not the problem. The problem with ops is a knockdown animation that makes getting hit 2 times while stunned, an impossible to break stunned a problem.

that is not the problem, there are sorc/sage/mar who can do that without you being stunned
the memory imprint of you being on your face is the problem

the fact you get killed by seemingly op classes like mar/sent/merc/commando/assassins all the time yet the imprint of being on your face still remains more vivid
there are more overpowered skills like force push which lasts 6 seconds instead of what the ability is supposed to do, 2 seconds knockdown it takes 2 seconds for me to fly backwards, 2 seconds on the floor and 2 seconds me getting up. assassins have a spike skill as a tank they can use that out of stealth also knockdown that takes not 2 but 4 seconds they also get a stun that is on a 15 second cooldown for 4 seconds, and a stun called shock, knockbacks gap closers and normal damage abilities that are on global cooldown not on 6 sec/9 sec delays and do not require and prerequisites like tactical advantage which requires shiv which is a 6 second delay skill....yet i see threads that operatives can miraculously chain stun with there long cooldown stuns minimum 30 seconds max without training 45 seconds and flash that is 1 minute cooldown. the other stun/knockdown is only for concealment tree and can only be done in stealth.

this class is totally made reliant on stealth and its opener where classes like assassin/marauders are not , well marauder not really all stealth, but can camo and do it more often too 45 seconds delay vs 2 minute delay of assassin/operatives/

und so weiter etc etc.

if you watch the videos of the other classes and you still saying this you should roll one and see how reality will hit you , once they nerf biochem this class is a joke, more so then any other class in the game. glad i play healer but people need to play more and get reality facts of level 50 gameplay, pve, pvp, group play , out of stealth play etc data mine it , i think they wont be nerfed , if you watched the scores of other classes in warzones you see that they not exclusive with high scores, as a matter a fact as people get to understand the class they will become extinct.

Powertechs and Vanguards really get the short end of the stick on this one. Im a champed on vanguard with all defenese gear and relics and spec, the whole 9. And an operative in battlemaster gear can kill me in 15 seconds. 4-10 of which im CC'ed. (Counting the animation adding on time of me not being able to do a damn thing while falling down or standing up.)

Top that off with bad ability delays in pvp, or flat out misfires, having to hit the button 8 times for an ability to fire. The troopers notorious ability delays are pretty bad.

It honestly just makes me want to just log in do my dailies and log out to play a class thats fun to pvp with. Its not like im not having success on the class, I can still put up damage and protection and blah blah. I've had my 300k damage 100k protection games. But its more due to the fact that Im guarding a healer who is healing me, the fact that troopers sneeze aoe, none of it is burst. And the fact I have just under 20k health. So what im not absorbing or defending against with my defense stats, im just flat out using a big health pool to do it.

But playing other classes, it is a bit crazy. You see your first 6k-8k crit in a warzone and you double take like, seriously? And im staying alive basically just as much. lol.

Don't worry, you won't hear a thing from BioWare about this issue. Their game is just fine in their eyes. Nope, nothing to see here. Matter of fact, you might even get a post from Reid about how this was all intended, just like the high res texture issue. Let's just say I've shelved my 50 Jugg and started over.

This, I am afraid, will show out to be true. BioWare's customer service, is now about blaming the customer, and not take the up the responsibility which is theirs.

BW's reputation went down the drain with this game. DA2 was an indicator they were heading that way, so it is no surprise to me that it is now happening.

In the end I blame EA, who without a shred of a doubt, has pushed the release of this game to a date where it simply was not ready....But, it was BW's own choice to sell their soul, so they are to blame as well.

Dude. Focus on the pvp issue, and not the anti-corporation rhetoric. WOW pvp always has something broken, but how many people do you see soapboxing about Vivendi?