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Bioware's unshaken confidence is troubling

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Bioware's unshaken confidence is troubling

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gtmach
01.13.2012 , 05:09 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Makade View Post
I haven't said (or even implied) any of these things. I don't think they have to fix things in 2 secs and I don't have an automatic assumption that BW hates its playbase (in fact, I'm sure they love their playerbase and the money it brings in).

What I am saying is that I love the game and I am looking for some indication that Bioware gets it regarding what needs to happen in order to maintain players. In most, but not all, press releases/interviews I have read to date, I am absolutely not convinced that they even understand the magnitude of some of the problems (you might argue that the problems aren't huge from your perspective, however player response thus far would argue otherwise). I don't work at Bioware so I can't say for sure whether they get it or not. I can only go by what is released publically, and what I've seen so far does not convince me.
I wasn't targeting you specifically when I said that. Just the trolls out there. I get what you're saying but you have to understand, BW will address these issues when they can.

WoW has always had issues plaguing the game that the player base constantly complained about. The developers or the forum people they had on took awhile to respond to whatever YOUR specific issue was. There were some fixes you didn't think about that happened right away and some you were looking for that happened much later.

Either way, the game grew in population like crazy. There were always wants/needs players had and nobody knew when they would be addressed. But they nearly always were at some time. Just have to be patient.

BW has stated that they're looking into issues like frame rate, which was a big deal for quite a few people. As time goes on they'll address another issue. No other company is amazing at this. They respond when they have a response to give.

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MrTijger
01.13.2012 , 05:13 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Selaik View Post
your fooling your self or lying to us , 99% of all mmo's are the same they always launch with issues , so unless you never bought a game at launch your statement is false .
99% of MMO's have issues years after launch even.

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Blackwater
01.13.2012 , 05:31 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfmann View Post
I think they should be proud of their accomplishment. They have brought a very complex product to market, have thoroughly tested it

"Very complex"
"Thoroughly tested"

I'm sorry, what game are you playing?

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Makade
01.13.2012 , 05:32 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Selaik View Post
Did anyone ever conceder the fact they don't care what you think , yes i know mom and daddy told you were special little snow flak but this company your a number , get use to it .
Maybe they do care. Why not throw a post up on a forum (you know, a place where you publically share ideas) and see if you can reach them?

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Kolbenito
01.13.2012 , 05:32 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Makade View Post
Here's the deal: I want SWTOR to survive and flourish. I really like the game overall. However, there are GLARING issues with this game (I'm not going to rehash them here...no point in repeating it) and yet Bioware seems to be blissfully (blindly?) boastful of their game. I get how PR works, blah, blah (so don't attempt to give me a lesson), but I have seen ZERO humility on Bioware's part that indicates that they have heard their customers. Look at Trion. Whether you like Rift or not (I found it to be rather bland myself) that is a company working its a*s off for your $15 a month. They have approached the community with humility and open ears, and it has paid off. Meanwhile, Bioware is too busy spinning the hype machine and patting itself on the back to approach the community's concerns humbly and comprehensively.

Please know that I am writing this post as a fan of the game (and Bioware) and I really want the game to succeed. In my life, I have never seen an individual or entity succeed in the long term by avoiding self-reflection and constructive criticism.....ever.
No company in their right mind does this. Have you ever once seen Microsoft apologize profously and release statements about constant bugs and security holes that need to be fixed? Has there ever been a month that there weren't 50 or so updates released for Windows and Microsoft product? The answer is NO.

It's a new game, it has bugs, they are addressing them pretty fast. Get over it.
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Xerda
01.13.2012 , 05:32 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Makade View Post
Here's the deal: I want SWTOR to survive and flourish. I really like the game overall. However, there are GLARING issues with this game (I'm not going to rehash them here...no point in repeating it) and yet Bioware seems to be blissfully (blindly?) boastful of their game. I get how PR works, blah, blah (so don't attempt to give me a lesson), but I have seen ZERO humility on Bioware's part that indicates that they have heard their customers. Look at Trion. Whether you like Rift or not (I found it to be rather bland myself) that is a company working its a*s off for your $15 a month. They have approached the community with humility and open ears, and it has paid off. Meanwhile, Bioware is too busy spinning the hype machine and patting itself on the back to approach the community's concerns humbly and comprehensively.

Please know that I am writing this post as a fan of the game (and Bioware) and I really want the game to succeed. In my life, I have never seen an individual or entity succeed in the long term by avoiding self-reflection and constructive criticism.....ever.
Agreed.
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Blackwater
01.13.2012 , 05:35 PM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Xerda View Post
Agreed.

I have to agree as well.

Warhammer online devs were cheering at the finish line, making videos about how much of a success WAR was all the while, the game was crashing down around them.

The same thing is happening to SWTOR. Not a very big suprise though, Bioware devs are the most blindingly arrogant people I've ever seen.

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Glowrod
01.13.2012 , 05:36 PM | #98
For a game that's only 3 weeks old, they are doing a glaringly fine job and should be proud. It's a shame that there are so many jerks here that won't shut up, but they are doing a fine job ignoring them.

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Derfmiolleh
01.13.2012 , 05:36 PM | #99
This is the best mmo I have ever played. Negative Nancies please go back to Ogrimar, Thrall misses your constant whining and complaining.

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skyvortex
01.13.2012 , 05:37 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Selaik View Post
your fooling your self or lying to us , 99% of all mmo's are the same they always launch with issues , so unless you never bought a game at launch your statement is false .
My bad. You caught me.
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