Mitigation, the REAL problem. Also, operatives need a 2x dmg multiplier.

i've gone from rotating between 6 or 7 abilities, with two offensive CC's (force stasis/hilt strike), and "lots of white damage", to basically rotating between sundering strike, strike, plasma brand, overhead strike, and blade storm. with force sweep when it's off cooldown. lots and lots of yellow damage, and it's aaaaaall good.

I honestly could care less how much this was discussed in BETA. This is still broken IMO.

This is also what happens when you have a flawed system and continuously try to place bandages over it to fix it.

Regardless of all things DPS shouldn't have all the advantage. The two things you want to have COMPLETELY balanced in PvP are damage output and healing output. If either one of those comes out of whack then there are sweeping issues. Tanks are the only role that cant completely trump in PvP.

Sure a tank could potentially NEVER die with heals. But a DPS with heals could KILL EVERYONE and never die. (oh wait this already happens)

Who is the game changer?

The tank who can guard/taunt apply basic DPS and never die with heals.

OR

The DPS that kills everything and never dies with heals.



BTW Both scenarios are currently possible in the current build so I fail to see why tank invulnerability (a class that ISNT supposed to die a lot) is any different from a DPSer who can mow down an entire 8 man by themselves.


This ISN'T balanced. Tech and Force attacks should be mitigated by Shield and absorb and Expertise should cut down on the mitigation.

1 DPS class should not be able to kill a tank class of equal gear unless they have advantages such as range/timing/cooldowns and other skill mechanics.Z

Tank > DPS
DPS > Heals
Heals > Tanks

It works but not in this game


In DAOC a real PvP MMO you would need to do something called ... FOCUS FIRE which is apparently lost to the current general SWTOR PvP population.



Im also curious of the statistic of # of people across the servers playing Force or Tech Based specs based on Factions.

Because the Knight and Sentinel and Shadow are more favorites for Republic to the BH and Sorcerer of Empire (just a personal opinion)

You obviously missed my point so I will lay it out:

Abilities that can be mitigated by both shields AND armor have the highest base damage.
Abilities that are mitigated by only armor have less base damage than that.
Abilities that are mitigated by nothing at all have the lowest base damage.

In the end it all evens out. I've asked people to go through their own character numbers and see if what I said bears out or not but based on what I see, this whole thread is a non issue.

I keep seeing this Rock, Paper, Scissor argument to the classes, but i don't see how being a Sniper is better then being a Sorc? I mean why would anyone play a Sniper when your damage is gimped vs tanks compared to a Sorc when you do full damage to everyone.

The fact is that even if they do good damage to all but 3 of the 8 classes they are still inferior.

Also, if someone brings up the argument that they do more dps then in PVE snipers would have to do someone in the order of 15% more damage then sorcs to be viable against shields.

I doubt that is the case.

How many pages does this thread have to be before we get a dev response as to what is going on and if it is working as intended or on the fix list?

You missed the point of the argument. Ignoring defense, which Sorcs hand down smoke snipers on. Offensively, Sorcs on average do 15% more dps because when they attack tanks they ignore shields. The question is why?

I believe that if snipers flat did 15% more dps they easily out pace mercs/sorcs in the dps charts.

The problem is they don't.

So i believe they are inherently gimped by design as it stands.