Bioware's unshaken confidence is troubling

Omg.. I grow tired of your argumentative stupidity, Obviously you did not read the entire post, so i will break it down for your simple little mind.

Wow Vs Swtor.

THERE IS NO WOW VS SWTOR.

I simply stated. People should let alone on the bugs just a bit, No, Swtor is not perfect by any means, But Neither was Wow, or Gw, OR UO (( if anyone here ever played that)) or shadowbane.. or neverwinter... when they were released, Point is, give it time, it'll get better, However, i lost my faith in Swtor As soon as EA got on the bandwagon, for a Long-Standing history of screwing things up, I was not attacking wow specificly, So stop bunching up your panties i used it as an example as a great many people can relate to that specific MMO, As for me, I dont play wow anymore, washed my hands of that crap 8 months ago, i'm clean of that, Moving back to Eve - where i can destroy people who either dont pay attention.. or are emochildren.

Goodluck Y'all.

May the shwartz be with you :>

It's funny how this incredibly exaggerated statement is intended to make someone else look like a chump.

I played WoW for five years. I played it during its beta. I bought and played at midnight on launch day. It's a fun game, but it doesn't have the same appeal to me that it once did.

But to act like it didn't have any issues, or that it was some kind of "enchanting" experience (as someone else had put it), is a sign of complete and utter ignorance. Quite frankly, WoW was a horrible, horrible game back in 2004. I loved the hell out of it, but it reaked of glitches, errors, and poor game design. It suffered from server crashes. People constantly cried about poor customer support. Every other thread on the forums was clammoring about the failures that the game would inevitably bring.

This game shares some of those problems, and like the former, they will be fixed in time. Fortunately, there is noticeably less to fix in this game.

Guess what? They are both good games. One has had a chance to improve. The other is working on it.

THANK YOU! Point made *Applauds* Well said, --^ I agree on every bit of it.

I just miss the EvE Pvp adrenilin rush :3

And i have Zero respect for and dont trust EA

Or simply having fun and, judging by 1.1, pretty confident things will get fixed that need fixing. Or is that too ignorant or blind for your taste?

Give it time? For it to be "on par"?

Sorry i've played A LOT of MMOs and its not 2004 any longer. Its just like anything else, when i buy a product, i expect it to work.

I'm sick of WoW too and wanted to love this game. But it's missing so many elements that WoW had back in 2004 it blows my mind. How do they expect to compete with WoW by charging $15/month when they can't even meet the standards WoW set back in 04?

WoW had a responsive UI working right out the door. It's 7 years later and SwTOR can't even get THAT right. Seriously how was this not a top priority, especially seeing as most MMOs since WoW have failed due to an unresponsive UI. It's completely inexcusable.


And even bugs aside WoW had tons more polish and depth at release than this game.
Just to name a few, WoW had mobs that wandered around and even talked to eachother as opposed to mobs that just sit there lifelessly in this game. WoW had underwater areas you could swim to, critters walking about and attacking one another, day/night cycles, music, the ability to sit and lie down, a combat log, and live mounts, ALL ON RELEASE. Bioware has cited "technical difficulties" when asked about the potential for bringing live mounts into this game.

WoW had infinitely more detailed and imaginative landscapes compared to SwTOR where every planet's ecosystem looks EXACTLY LIKE EARTH. Seriously who plays a space MMO to see oak trees? Where are the liquid nitrogen forests and electric gas clouds? Where is the alien plantlife?? Alien planets are such an opportunity to be creative and oak trees is what they came up with!? WoW's space zones were actually imaginative.


Can you name me one element of this game that's better or more innovative other than story? Because how does Bioware expect to compete with WoW when their game is inferior to WoW in nearly every facet other than story? This game needed way more development time (or just smarter development), releasing it now is an obvious money-grab quickly trying to capitalize on the unsatisfied mmo-gamer before GW2 comes out.

Did anyone ever conceder the fact they don't care what you think , yes i know mom and daddy told you were special little snow flak but this company your a number , get use to it .

I haven't said (or even implied) any of these things. I don't think they have to fix things in 2 secs and I don't have an automatic assumption that BW hates its playbase (in fact, I'm sure they love their playerbase and the money it brings in).

What I am saying is that I love the game and I am looking for some indication that Bioware gets it regarding what needs to happen in order to maintain players. In most, but not all, press releases/interviews I have read to date, I am absolutely not convinced that they even understand the magnitude of some of the problems (you might argue that the problems aren't huge from your perspective, however player response thus far would argue otherwise). I don't work at Bioware so I can't say for sure whether they get it or not. I can only go by what is released publically, and what I've seen so far does not convince me.

your fooling your self or lying to us , 99% of all mmo's are the same they always launch with issues , so unless you never bought a game at launch your statement is false .

There is absolutely nothing narcissistic about respectfully sharing one's ideas with others. Or, are you only referring to the ideas that you don't agree with?