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Which one destroys gaming communities/games?

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DiLune
01.13.2012 , 04:20 PM | #21
I'm going off the survey and saying "Lack of Server Forums." It may not destroy community, but in an MMO, it certainly is the opposite of promoting one.

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HoneyBoy
01.13.2012 , 04:21 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Pengatron View Post
LFG systems (like the one in "that other game") allow players to easily get into a group (and a dungeon / flashpoint) but greatly harms the sense of "community" between the players. It allows (promotes?) anti social, "me first, you never", selfish, greedy, elitist attitudes to flourish. Especially when the LFG system does cross server grouping.

Damage meters promote similar elitist attitudes because many will just focus on the meter readings instead of just working together to accomplish the goals. They will blame anyone who's meter readings are below theirs or below a certain number that the elitist ones have decided is the minimum required.

If you want those features (LFG and meters) in a MMORG, go play "that other one". Keep them out of this one.
Notice how the key behind both your answers is "People may be jerks with them". People can be jerks right now without them too you know?

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Mandrax
01.13.2012 , 04:21 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Reecelol View Post
what role does the community play in the downfall of the community?
The community plays the biggest role of course, but people fail to see this and thus look for something else to blame.

Damage meters are great tools, it's (some of) the people that use them that are the problem.

LFG is a great tool, it's (some of) the people that use them that are the problem.
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Vydor_HC
01.13.2012 , 04:22 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by DiLune View Post
I'm going off the survey and saying "Lack of Server Forums." It may not destroy community, but in an MMO, it certainly is the opposite of promoting one.
Yeah, this bugs me too.

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Keihryon
01.13.2012 , 04:22 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by HoneyBoy View Post
The only people attempting to force any playstyle down anyones throat are those who actively advocate for no enhanced and optional UI tools like a better LFG one or combat logs.
No they only force the game designers to make content requiring said addons, and there by forcing them down the throats of everyone who doesn't advocate for enhanced and optional UI tools.

As for a LFG tool, my server made its own galaxy-wide lfg channel. No-one on your server take that initiative? Guess they are like you and wait for everything to be handed to them.

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Twixted
01.13.2012 , 04:22 PM | #26
Everyone who is against addons are simply afraid of

DBM
Decursive
Min/Max meter benchmarks


So scared they will vote Obama to a second term while signing their first born child away to TOU agreement.

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Aisar
01.13.2012 , 04:23 PM | #27
I love how people try to blame amazing tools instead of the community itself
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HoneyBoy
01.13.2012 , 04:25 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Mandrax View Post
The community plays the biggest role of course, but people fail to see this and thus look for something else to blame.

Damage meters are great tools, it's (some of) the people that use them that are the problem.

LFG is a great tool, it's (some of) the people that use them that are the problem.
Exactly, it's as if people believe this game to be an utter behavioral utopia right now because we don't have LFG or addons in the game. I've personally encountered jerks already and people with "me first" attitudes, but I can accept that for what that is, simply my own experiences. I'm not going to let them mar my enjoyment of the game.

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HoneyBoy
01.13.2012 , 04:27 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Keihryon View Post
No they only force the game designers to make content requiring said addons, and there by forcing them down the throats of everyone who doesn't advocate for enhanced and optional UI tools.

As for a LFG tool, my server made its own galaxy-wide lfg channel. No-one on your server take that initiative? Guess they are like you and wait for everything to be handed to them.
Who is asking "Hey Bioware make content that you absolutely need addons to complete"? Or is that just some silly strawman argument you conjured up?

And Yes my entire server is full of lazy people who do nothing but sit at the fleet waiting to have levels and gear freely handed to them.

Maybe you should join my server and make it for us, help out that community feeling, instead of just insulting us!

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Pengatron
01.13.2012 , 04:29 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by HoneyBoy View Post
Notice how the key behind both your answers is "People may be jerks with them". People can be jerks right now without them too you know?
True.

But having played that other game for a long time, I noticed a severe upsurge in "jerk behavior" after the LFG system came into play, and even more with the newer LFR.

Don't get me wrong, I made extensive use of the LFG system there which made getting dungeon gear drops (and thus elevating my gear levels) so much easier than manually trying to form groups. But after a while the rampant anti-social behavior there gets to the point where it is not worth it.

This game does not need those features (and the crap that would come with them), at least not now. The negatives far outweigh the positives in a game as new as this one. Perhaps some time in the future?