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Heroic 4 quests should be redesigned


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Graburr
12.29.2011 , 01:42 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Casil View Post
Like others have said, the problem isn't that some players are too far ahead of the levelling curve to effectively do heroic content. Rather, the problem is that in 6 months from now, almost all non-50 group content will be completely unused since there won't be a critical mass of players at those levels (starting planet heroics and the first FP likely being the notable exceptions).
which two complete different things. what kind of argument is that supposed to be anyway? "I can't find a group NOW, because in SIX MONTHS people won't find a group". 0_o

and there a lot of misconception going on here: you don't NEED heroic quests. with flashpoints, space and overlapping zones there is more than enough content to not outlevel it. I'm not even sure you need flashpoints.

no one forces anyone to group. "omg I miss content" - unless you roll 8 different chars, do raids on nightmare and submit to the pvp-grind, you miss content anyway.

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Hezakia
12.29.2011 , 01:58 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Graburr View Post
which two complete different things. what kind of argument is that supposed to be anyway? "I can't find a group NOW, because in SIX MONTHS people won't find a group". 0_o

and there a lot of misconception going on here: you don't NEED heroic quests. with flashpoints, space and overlapping zones there is more than enough content to not outlevel it. I'm not even sure you need flashpoints.

no one forces anyone to group. "omg I miss content" - unless you roll 8 different chars, do raids on nightmare and submit to the pvp-grind, you miss content anyway.
No you dont NEED Heroic quest, but they do offer additional story AND rewards that are better then solo quest. Flashpoint are what they are, a chance to get a shot at a piece of gear and the learning experience of running said flashpoint (and to do hood rat things with your friends )
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Graburr
12.29.2011 , 02:18 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Hezakia View Post
No you dont NEED Heroic quest, but they do offer additional story AND rewards that are better then solo quest.
heroics give 3 commendation and a large sum of xp, plus the drops. story is the usual "there's a guy that needs to be killed/defended or stuff looted". so nothing special
plus they are dailies, can be shared and have no quest requirement - which means if people REALLY wanted to do them, they would just reply to the lfm in chat (I highly doubt there is not ONE player looking for a group), let some1 share the quest and off they go.
and even if they did them the day before, what's keeping them from repeating the mentioned steps today?

Quote: Originally Posted by Hezakia View Post
the learning experience of running said flashpoint (and to do hood rat things with your friends )
oh yes. force push in cademimu is hilarious.

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Arrys
12.29.2011 , 05:41 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by ratfanatic View Post
You play on a poor server. My experience has been the exact opposite of yours.
Or in a poor timeframe on that server.

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Rahl_Windsong
01.13.2012 , 09:00 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Draekal View Post
While I am enjoying the SWTOR game, I am thinking that it is possibly stifling its own community. Currently it is pretty difficult and/or time consuming to form a group for pretty much anything. Even as a tank, I sometimes leave fleet being unable to form a group for a flashpoint.

Anyway, this thread is about the heroic quests. I think it's good that they are in here; in an MMORPG people should be forced to socialise. If they didn't want to, why are they playing an MMORPG? However, it is getting difficult to get groups, let alone good groups, for the 4/5 heroic 4 quests per planet.

My idea is to have only 1 or 2 long and engaging heroic 4 per planet, and to downgrade the others to heroic 2. This way you still get the option of doing really great difficult quests, and since they'll be quite long chains, able to keep your group, but still be able to get some of the other smaller ones done without having to wait 30 minutes to get a group, or, worse still, find that you've done the entire planet and still not done your heroic 4's, and have to abandon them and leave (which has happened to me already a few times).
Best way for you to get groups faster is to find a good healer friend and advertise as Tank and Healer LFG quest name. As a healer I always look for a good tank buddy or two or three so I can advertise for groups with them, when people see that you already have the group half formed they jump at the chance to get in...
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