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If Operatives are so OP, Why am I this good?

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If Operatives are so OP, Why am I this good?

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JukeSpoko
01.13.2012 , 12:27 AM | #71
I have a question for OP; What kind of gear do you have on in this video? Quite a bit of the pvp gear?

While I do feel that operative is OP as well as some other classes that have a lot of burst damage, I think it all stems from the gear. Most of the people that would seem "op" are pretty well geared level 50's.

What I feel is OP is people at level 50 and using several pieces of champions gear+ against low levels and fresh 50's. If the warzones were at least split up into two brackets, one being 49 and under and one 50 that would be the best. I would even ask for a fresh 50 bracket and a 50 bracket for people with champions gear, although I have no idea how that would ever work. I just prefer balanced and competitive games over games where one side dominates for a 3min win.

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01.13.2012 , 12:37 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by JukeSpoko View Post
I have a question for OP; What kind of gear do you have on in this video? Quite a bit of the pvp gear?

While I do feel that operative is OP as well as some other classes that have a lot of burst damage, I think it all stems from the gear. Most of the people that would seem "op" are pretty well geared level 50's.

What I feel is OP is people at level 50 and using several pieces of champions gear+ against low levels and fresh 50's. If the warzones were at least split up into two brackets, one being 49 and under and one 50 that would be the best. I would even ask for a fresh 50 bracket and a 50 bracket for people with champions gear, although I have no idea how that would ever work. I just prefer balanced and competitive games over games where one side dominates for a 3min win.
i answer that question in the OP as well as at the end of the video

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01.13.2012 , 12:43 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Aidank View Post
Shadow can do pretty decent burst, and are definitely not underpowered, they just aren't consistently doing the same as an operative does.

Not to mention their force depletes far quicker than an operative's energy, meaning that a shadow's all-out burst will leave them in a pretty gimped state, while operatives can stay on the offensive, doing a lot of damage for a lot longer while putting out incredible damage during their bursts.
ye because we can just spam everything like there is no tomorrow! Its not like if we get under 60 energy the energy regeneration becomes too little that we either need to pop adrenalin probe which has a 2 min cd or simply wait for it to come up again. Because if we end up with 0 energy it takes 15 sec to get it back up again.
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01.13.2012 , 12:46 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Icecrypt View Post
ye because we can just spam everything like there is no tomorrow! Its not like if we get under 60 energy the energy regeneration becomes too little that we either need to pop adrenalin probe which has a 2 min cd or simply wait for it to come up again. Because if we end up with 0 energy it takes 15 sec to get it back up again.
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01.13.2012 , 03:53 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Icecrypt View Post
ye because we can just spam everything like there is no tomorrow! Its not like if we get under 60 energy the energy regeneration becomes too little that we either need to pop adrenalin probe which has a 2 min cd or simply wait for it to come up again. Because if we end up with 0 energy it takes 15 sec to get it back up again.
Translated: "We can only insta-shot people every 15 seconds, Op/Sc are obviously balanced!"

Really, I feel for you, it must be horrible to be so gimped. You should try to play a class that has to root itself to do any decent damage, and that root is bugged beyond belief so it may take up to 12 seconds before it kicks (usually only 2 seconds, but sometimes you're just screwed) and then the attacks from the root can take just as long, even when they're supposed to be insta.

My fav: "you need to be in cover..."...which button I was pressing? Cover of course.
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carbocat
01.13.2012 , 03:57 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by quakereject View Post
Yep, the burst shadows can do is pretty solid. Then again every class has burst, people just hate op's and scoundrels because they get knocked on their face.

Biochem is more the problem, though hidden strike/don'tpayattentiontowhatrebsget may be a tad overpowered, either way.. the have nots will cry, and the haves will say *** as usual. Wonderful world of MMO's and WHAT THE &*@# I DIED? THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE HOW COULD I EVER DIE? NERF THAT CLASS THAT MADE ME DIE!!!!1ONE
Assassin also knock ppl on their faces, so whats ur point?

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hwhiskey
01.13.2012 , 04:22 AM | #77
OP: You aren't good, you just played this game way too much, farmed up a bunch of gear, and cockslapped a bunch of average players in mediocre gear in public warzones. That doesn't somehow magically prove that scoundrel and operative burst is balanced.

An autistic chimpanzee wearing full battlemaster gear could destroy any of these people equally well, this in no way disproves claims of absurd scoundrel and operative burst.

Having said that, biochem is pretty absurd too. Steroids were outlawed in most sporting competitions for a reason.

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Illwill-
01.13.2012 , 09:54 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by hwhiskey View Post
OP: You aren't good, you just played this game way too much, farmed up a bunch of gear, and cockslapped a bunch of average players in mediocre gear in public warzones. That doesn't somehow magically prove that scoundrel and operative burst is balanced.

An autistic chimpanzee wearing full battlemaster gear could destroy any of these people equally well, this in no way disproves claims of absurd scoundrel and operative burst.

Having said that, biochem is pretty absurd too. Steroids were outlawed in most sporting competitions for a reason.
Not a great example though, since most still use it. All american athletes (without exception), the chinese, the russians...

That said, obviously biochem is the only viable craft for end-game, and that is kinda dumb.
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Qlimitus
01.13.2012 , 09:57 AM | #79
Gratz you played vs a bunch of noobs and won.. bravo.
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MarcusElliott
01.13.2012 , 10:08 AM | #80
It's not the class being op, but the consumable that make them hit so hard. Remove all this buff stacking, and you'll see the dps go down...