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Why the Prequel Trilogy was TERRIBLE, right here!

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Why the Prequel Trilogy was TERRIBLE, right here!

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RagnarokJC
01.12.2012 , 03:00 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by SammyRath View Post
I'm going to try and get through this review, again. But honestly I'm 42 seconds in, and I feel like blowing my face off. Why does he sound so friggin' depressing? Christ alive, If I talked like that about everything of course people are going to see the negative stuff In everything.

EDIT: I failed, I cannot stand that guy. Yes he makes some valid points, he also makes some less valid points. But why on earth do we need so many links to those blasted reviews?
And why does this thread need such an aggressive title? For crying out loud If some people enjoy the prequel trilogy why make a thread that absolutely claims the entire prequel trilogy suck, based on someone elses opinion?
Why not just let some people hate them, and some people enjoy them?
You admittedly didn't watch the entire review but feel like you could actually comment on it? Yep, you're a perfect example of the target audience for those films to begin with. Enjoy filling up Lucas' pockets if that's what you want.
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RuffDaRuffest
01.12.2012 , 03:31 PM | #42
I kinda liked ep 1, tho' ep 3 was seriously bad. Overall idea was good, so was story in general, but then lots of **** things were made (like Yoda simply running from Palpatine, despite advantage, or too much of Anakin x Padme love story, while too little of Anakin relations with Chancellor). As for ep 2, it was ok, had some bad moments, but generally was ok.

As for acting I liked Dooku, Yoda, Obi-wan and Palp, tho' Padme and Anakin were... more awful than awful.

As for review itself, it was ******, not only guy's voice was freakin' annoying, but he also compares things obviously different. Why didn't he compare C3PO with Jar Jar? And why the heck compare Solo with Qui-Gon, who only appeared in 1 movie and surely was not main char or even close. Not to mention people who described characters were 100% original trilogy hardcore fans, I could say more about both Amidala and Qui-Gon (even if I don't like Padme).

Why didn't he compare beginning of Empire Strikes back with Phantom Manace? They were kinda similar, weren't they?

As we're in the topic of prequel trilogy, did you notice that every piece of republic equipment has Imperial marks? Maybe something has changed since ToR/KotOR, but it looks like a mistake.

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SammyRath
01.12.2012 , 04:15 PM | #43
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You admittedly didn't watch the entire review but feel like you could actually comment on it?
You're not really addressing the points I made based on the parts I watched, but merely attacking the idea that i didn't watch the entire thing. My comment was based on the parts I watched, and I also admittedly agreed with the guy on some points he made.
But because I could not endure an entire review with that voice, even the parts I comment on that i did manage to watch, and agree with, are invalid simply because I didn't watch it to the end?

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Yep, you're a perfect example of the target audience for those films to begin with.
.... People who don't watch reviews to end, and conform to whatever opinion the reviewer presents?

I know, and agree with some points he makes, some of them are completely valid, but I still enjoy all the Star Wars movies, prequel or not. Am I not allowed to enjoy the movies I want to enjoy because some guy with a depression, and a kidnapped cheerleader in his basement says otherwise?

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Enjoy filling up Lucas' pockets if that's what you want.
I was going to make a sarcastic remark to finish off, but that comment Is just way to ignorant.
Seriously, not ever did I even remotely insinuate that was my deepest desire.

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KaL_InvictuS
01.12.2012 , 04:19 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by RuffDaRuffest View Post
Not to mention people who described characters were 100% original trilogy hardcore fans, I could say more about both Amidala and Qui-Gon (even if I don't like Padme).
Out of sheer curiosity, HOW would you describe Qui-Gon and Amidala (without mentioning their appearence or occupation etc, as in the video)?

It's not an "aggressive" question or anything. Just that the video got me thinking and I personally couldn't find any exact words to describe these 2 :P

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WarBaby
01.12.2012 , 04:38 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by KaL_InvictuS View Post
Out of sheer curiosity, HOW would you describe Qui-Gon and Amidala (without mentioning their appearence or occupation etc, as in the video)?

It's not an "aggressive" question or anything. Just that the video got me thinking and I personally couldn't find any exact words to describe these 2 :P
I couldn't discribe them either. I never got WHY these characters where in the movies at all... I found them pointless... as was kiddo Anakin, Jarjar and almost all other chars from EP1.^^ Why couldn't they make the movie about a twenty something, newly appointed Jedi Obi-Wan on his way to meeting a teenage Anakin prior to the Clone Wars?
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reaperkeepet
01.12.2012 , 04:39 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Gun_Slinger View Post
There's another thread about this, but I'm not gonna bury this link in there for no one to see. If you want to know why those movies are really just absolutely terrible, from the perspective of a star wars fan, from the perspective of a film critic, and from the perspective of a person who prefers logic to da da, follow this link, and prepare to laugh histerically, and also hate george lucas forever:

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/s...hantom-menace/
Hahaha, thats my thread!
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RagnarokJC
01.12.2012 , 04:51 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by SammyRath View Post
You're not really addressing the points I made based on the parts I watched, but merely attacking the idea that i didn't watch the entire thing. My comment was based on the parts I watched, and I also admittedly agreed with the guy on some points he made.
But because I could not endure an entire review with that voice, even the parts I comment on that i did manage to watch, and agree with, are invalid simply because I didn't watch it to the end?
You didn't bring up a single specific example of anything you agreed or disagreed with in your post. This is a classic indicator of ignorance: speaking only in general terms.

Quote: Originally Posted by SammyRath View Post
I know, and agree with some points he makes, some of them are completely valid, but I still enjoy all the Star Wars movies, prequel or not. Am I not allowed to enjoy the movies I want to enjoy because some guy with a depression, and a kidnapped cheerleader in his basement says otherwise?
I'm still waiting for you to bring up those specific examples.

Quote: Originally Posted by SammyRath View Post
I was going to make a sarcastic remark to finish off, but that comment Is just way to ignorant.
Seriously, not ever did I even remotely insinuate that was my deepest desire.
I added the words "...if you want." to that last statement for a reason. You really have to read everything before you post.
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RuffDaRuffest
01.12.2012 , 05:05 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by KaL_InvictuS View Post
Out of sheer curiosity, HOW would you describe Qui-Gon and Amidala (without mentioning their appearence or occupation etc, as in the video)?

It's not an "aggressive" question or anything. Just that the video got me thinking and I personally couldn't find any exact words to describe these 2 :P
Amidala? Little inexperienced, wants to be strong queen and is not afraid of anything if it's supposed to help her people (and later, Republic). Also got that kind of "*****" attitude.

As for Qui-Gon? Well he surely believes in his student and is like an older brother to him (which kinda goes to Obi-Wan as well, he even states Anakin was like brother to him), also he's not afraid to use Force for his agenda, what he did in dice scene to get Anakin would be considered path to darkness/corruption by many Jedi, which shows his distance and open mind toward rules of Order.

I could prolly say more if I rewatched movies, which I didn't do for a while.

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Durzaka
01.12.2012 , 05:21 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by RuffDaRuffest View Post
Amidala? Little inexperienced, wants to be strong queen and is not afraid of anything if it's supposed to help her people (and later, Republic). Also got that kind of "*****" attitude.

As for Qui-Gon? Well he surely believes in his student and is like an older brother to him (which kinda goes to Obi-Wan as well, he even states Anakin was like brother to him), also he's not afraid to use Force for his agenda, what he did in dice scene to get Anakin would be considered path to darkness/corruption by many Jedi, which shows his distance and open mind toward rules of Order.

I could prolly say more if I rewatched movies, which I didn't do for a while.
You mentioned Amidalas profession, and also described almost nothing about her actualy character except something about attitude i cant guess from context.

You also mentioned Qui-Gons profession (student implies hes a teacher, Force implies hes a jedi, ergo, profession) And for the dice, pretty sure thats a move Obi-wan and other Jedi would do in a similar situation (granted obiwan being his apprentice and what not).

So, you basically said nothing about either of their characters int he 2 paragraphs you wrote.
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RuffDaRuffest
01.12.2012 , 05:30 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Durzaka View Post
You mentioned Amidalas profession, and also described almost nothing about her actualy character except something about attitude i cant guess from context.

You also mentioned Qui-Gons profession (student implies hes a teacher, Force implies hes a jedi, ergo, profession) And for the dice, pretty sure thats a move Obi-wan and other Jedi would do in a similar situation (granted obiwan being his apprentice and what not).

So, you basically said nothing about either of their characters int he 2 paragraphs you wrote.
Calling Han a scoundrel/rogue also implies his profession. You don't call a Jedi or Trooper this way.

I think I said enough about their personalities, unless you don't understand what you read (no offence meant).

And I'm pretty sure Yoda or Windu would simply let go not being sure if he really is the chosen one, not to mention that they'd probably say something like 'if he's the foretold child Force will guide him to us eventually', as would most of masters.

Edit: and the reason why I mentioned their professions is that you should explain/argument your views/opinions. At least that's what they taught me in high school literature classes.