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If Operatives are so OP, Why am I this good?

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If Operatives are so OP, Why am I this good?

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raistek
01.12.2012 , 05:09 PM | #51
Wait wait so scoundrel isn't:
-fleshette
-shoot first
-succer punch till he dies because it regrants upper hand on bleeding target?

I guess if you want to be really cool you can add lower dmg abilities like back blast or this blaster punch whatever it is called.


But if I am wrong , sorry.

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Fireal
01.12.2012 , 05:10 PM | #52
3 attacks.

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Torn
01.12.2012 , 05:21 PM | #53
Tons of classes can do just as much burst damage as an operative - people QQ (as they always do) about stealth classes because we burst them after we CC them - people hate to die while being CC'd even though logically its no different
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Darthneubauer
01.12.2012 , 05:25 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Torn View Post
Tons of classes can do just as much burst damage as an operative - people QQ (as they always do) about stealth classes because we burst them after we CC them - people hate to die while being CC'd even though logically its no different
but it is, because you can fight back
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thekrazo
01.12.2012 , 05:25 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by raistek View Post
Wait wait so scoundrel isn't:
-fleshette
-shoot first
-succer punch till he dies because it regrants upper hand on bleeding target?

I guess if you want to be really cool you can add lower dmg abilities like back blast or this blaster punch whatever it is called.


But if I am wrong , sorry.
Flechette + shoot first. 0
For maximum burst, back blast (positional requirement back stab. 9s cooldown.) 1.5
sucker punch 3
blaster whip (build upper hand again.) 4.5
sucker punch again. Twice if you procced flying fist on the first. 6

That's max burst. It's a pretty crap rotation if there's a chance at all the person won't die or anyone else is around.

Sucker punch has a 50% chance to regrant upper hand on a bleeding target. That's because flying fists has a 100% chance but only procs 50% of the time.

Flechette round is 6 seconds long. So your sucker punch won't grant upper hand after 6 seconds (bleeds are off.) and at that point you have to vital shot or re-flechette if back blast is off cool down.

So, if a player is bad, the first 7.5 seconds is pretty easy. But if they're good they're gonna adapt that rotation substantially for each class and situation.

It's heavily cooldown and proc based and rather complicated if you're doing anything other than spamming dps into someone hoping you can gib him. Despite what people think that isn't what good scoundrels do against someone with decent gear.

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Irishbrewed
01.12.2012 , 05:27 PM | #56
I personally feel op in every mmo, no matter the class....can't nerf me

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Dominickz
01.12.2012 , 06:07 PM | #57
operatives/scoundrels are what pyromancer mages were in the beginning of rift true story.

YOU SHALL NOT PASS.

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Caliban_Thule
01.12.2012 , 06:09 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Torn View Post
Tons of classes can do just as much burst damage as an operative - people QQ (as they always do) about stealth classes because we burst them after we CC them - people hate to die while being CC'd even though logically its no different
did that make any sense when you wrote it? If I am not CC'd I can respond to the damage...otherwise I cant, and auto lose

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Stranger_LDR
01.12.2012 , 06:10 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Powerr View Post
We are viable. I do not claim to hit harder than most players. I do not claim to be the best. What I will admit, is I am sick of people calling Operatives Overpowered. Every class is Overpowered, thats what BioWare targeted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oalB2bBRas

Here is my guide thread that coincides with this video
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=165927


Guild is Matchless, names Powerr

This video will show you what its like to hit as a battlemaster ranked jedi shadow. I have 9 pieces of battlemaster but I do not min/max with mods etc. I do use BioChem like every PvPer should

My spec is 33 Infiltration 8 Balance

This video shows fights progressively getting harder until the very end so stay tuned till then.

I hereby do not proclaim 5v1 against lowbie's is difficult, the clips I show of it are just for "lol's"

Video also proves that consumables are what are breaking PvP not the class balance.

Enjoy!
we've seen how Envii roflstomped you. next.
edit: Having full battlemaster set to be viable as an assassin against mediocre geared 50ies and lowbie is kinda meh.

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Powerr
01.12.2012 , 07:16 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Dominickz View Post
operatives/scoundrels are what pyromancer mages were in the beginning of rift true story.

YOU SHALL NOT PASS.
haha, I laughed.

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