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Why the free to play with micro transactions would work for SWTOR

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Why the free to play with micro transactions would work for SWTOR

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Calimwulf
01.12.2012 , 03:51 PM | #21
What is absolutely amazing to me is the fact that Free to Play isn't. People pay more for less in 'F2P' models. Why people do not see or understand this is mind boggling to me.
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titanmike
01.12.2012 , 03:51 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by chrisftw View Post
GW one is trash only only a folks who like that game play it it has a niche audience the same will be said for GW2 pretty much anybody who likes GW1 will try GW2 guaranteed. as they've been looking for something new.

however the game is trash i couldn't even get out of the first area.

wanna talk about instanced? GW1 is heavily instance to the same respect of DDO. GW2 will be a more dressed up fluffed version of the previous

however there are some posters who say GW2 is nothing like GW1. impossible.

that's like Diablo all the sudden becoming an RTS. they think its that different.
I am just gonna touch on this issue too.

Who really wants to play another fantasy/medevial mmo with highly sexualised women and lolis?

I am looking at you Tera, and others. I had enough fantasy characters that are under clothed and over endowed in my MMOS.
Its bad enough here in TOR as it is.

If I wanted that I would play modded skyrim and get the "full" effect.

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oPURT
01.12.2012 , 03:54 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Urgas View Post
No, steady income for steady support and content. If 15$ a month is too much for you to spend on a hobby you need to not be spending a ton of time playing a game.
Don't forget the thousands we spend to keep our PCs running the latest and greatest gear! Mind you int's not every month or even every year, but it's a significant amount of cash.
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Chiricahua
01.12.2012 , 03:54 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by titanmike View Post
I am just gonna touch on this issue too.

Who really wants to play another fantasy/medevial mmo with highly sexualised women and lolis?

I am looking at you Tera, and others. I had enough fantasy characters that are under clothed and over endowed in my MMOS.
Its bad enough here in TOR as it is.

If I wanted that I would play modded skyrim and get the "full" effect.
Who really wants to play another fantasy/medevial mmo with highly sexualised women and lolis?

You're kidding right?

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Wolfeisberg
01.12.2012 , 03:56 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by chrisftw View Post
GW one is trash only only a folks who like that game play it it has a niche audience the same will be said for GW2 pretty much anybody who likes GW1 will try GW2 guaranteed. as they've been looking for something new.

however the game is trash i couldn't even get out of the first area.

wanna talk about instanced? GW1 is heavily instance to the same respect of DDO. GW2 will be a more dressed up fluffed version of the previous

however there are some posters who say GW2 is nothing like GW1. impossible.

that's like Diablo all the sudden becoming an RTS. they think its that different.
Except for GW2 really is going to be different then Guild Wars 1.
1- It has a persistent world, just like WoW, EQ, SWTOR, Rift, AOC, ect. It is not instanced just for you and your group only while questing.

2- Each zone is dynamic, you can take one character through the zone, and then when you take another character through the zone it could be very different. Read more about their dynamic content, go to their website.

Anyways, the developers never claimed Guild Wars an MMO anyways, they claimed it as a CORPG, Cooperative Online Role Playing Game or Competitive Online Role Playing Game. But this time around Guild Wars 2 they are claiming it is an MMO because it takes place in a persistent world, where you can run into other people while you are questing.


Also, I wouldn't call selling more 7 million copies as a niche game.

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Catch_TwentyTwo
01.12.2012 , 03:56 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Chiricahua View Post
From what I gather Guild Wars 2 will be free to play with micro transactions. They will also most likely charge for expansions (DLC) at around $10 each. Keep in mind that the cost of the game is also $60. If they have 4 DLC's in one year that's $40, plus the revenue from micro transactions. Stuff like in game mounts, which no one is forcing you to buy. I never did like the WoW Celestial Steed.

Now what would be better for SWTOR. 500,0000 subscribers, or 2 million free to play subscribers, using the above model?
Great story bru' I was hooked.

The fact that currently the subscriber base is sitting at well over the number you state. 2.1million units sold, even assuming only 1 in 3 stayed that would be 700k and I am confident that the subscriber base is probably at around 95% of those that buy.
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Cameirus
01.12.2012 , 03:56 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Urgas View Post
No, steady income for steady support and content. If 15$ a month is too much for you to spend on a hobby you need to not be spending a ton of time playing a game.
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really, its hilarious people still fall for that "the sub pays for content and support" crap.

Unless you receive 4 expansions worth of content a year, you do not get value from your sub.

The sub does not pay for support or fixes. Fixes for bugs should be free, any other product that ships with errors you dont have to pay extra to get it working properly, and support does not even register as a notable expense on company budget sheets (go look at some and see, not even a separate line, just a footnote).

Now, I dont actually mind subs, I look at it as not a lot of money compared to going to see films or whatever, so thats fine. But really, its just a way to make oodles of cash off people.


Whats worrying is that the model seems to be:
Full price game + sub + fulll price expansions.

Whereas is realy should be:
Full price game + sub (with 4 expansions worth of content every year as patches)
OR
Full Price game + full price expansions.


Its only becaause we, as gamers let companies screw us, that they get away with it.

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Deyjarl
01.12.2012 , 03:57 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Calimwulf View Post
What is absolutely amazing to me is the fact that Free to Play isn't. People pay more for less in 'F2P' models. Why people do not see or understand this is mind boggling to me.
Exactly. As I said before, every game I've seen go to F2P it ends up costing more to get the same access and content than it would if you just paid a sub for everything. Every single one.

They start off saying they are doing it with good intentions, but eventually they see the money coming in and greed wins out.
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Phenyr
01.12.2012 , 03:58 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Chiricahua View Post
From what I gather Guild Wars 2 will be free to play with micro transactions. They will also most likely charge for expansions (DLC) at around $10 each. Keep in mind that the cost of the game is also $60. If they have 4 DLC's in one year that's $40, plus the revenue from micro transactions. Stuff like in game mounts, which no one is forcing you to buy. I never did like the WoW Celestial Steed.

Now what would be better for SWTOR. 500,0000 subscribers, or 2 million free to play subscribers, using the above model?

Jesus F***ing Christ.... he use to run on the water and never won a swimming contest.

Now back to topic. I wanna play this game but only if payable this way...We geting smart arent we? I hope I wont see post that 'We should get payed to play this game'
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Wolfeisberg
01.12.2012 , 04:01 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Calimwulf View Post
What is absolutely amazing to me is the fact that Free to Play isn't. People pay more for less in 'F2P' models. Why people do not see or understand this is mind boggling to me.
on the average, in F2P players spend less then $15 a month. Doesn't mean that some players will spend more then $15, but most spend less then $15.00 a month.