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Lets face it WOW pvp > SWTOR pvp

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Lets face it WOW pvp > SWTOR pvp

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Thatguypa
01.12.2012 , 03:21 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by ZeusThunder View Post
@@ disagree - WoW PvP is cross server based, and therefore will never be better than TOR PvP for me.
While swtor not being cross server is a plus, the combat is just such crap that it can never be better than wow pvp. If they do something drastic to make the combat not feel slow, clunky and delayed then it could be a great game. But unfortunately that just seems to be the way combat is in this game.

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anedorivan
01.12.2012 , 03:23 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by IronFirewind View Post
@@ - Disagree due to the following:

1) SWTOR has server-only PvP


Why is this better? It breeds a sense of realm pride and community. Guilds and individuals can make names for themselves like on Dark Age of Camelot and Warhammer Online. People will know the good PvPers and PvP guilds on their server, who to team up with, what guilds to ally with etc. It breeds a sense of realm pride because you become well known to both sides.

If also stops people from greifing on Warfronts because names are known. Everyone learns the names and guilds of cheaters, exploiters, griefers and trolls and can punish them.


2) SWTOR is balanced for group vs group at the level cap


This is important as it is where most PvP will eventually happen. WoW's problem is that it has to balance for 2v2, 2v2, 6v6, and Battlegrounds of multiple sizes. And it also has various brackets and supports twinking. WoW is impossible to balance.

SWTOR does away with this by only having one bracket (soon to be two but it's the same principle) and makes it so all warfronts have the same party sizes, so the game only needs to be balanced for group v group at lv50
Agreed and well said.
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Tyranoc
01.12.2012 , 03:23 PM | #43
I totally disagree. I loved WoW. Loved it... Then it wen down the toilet. I enjoy this game much more. And of course this games systems may not measure up to WoWs in every aspect... that game iisnt a month old compared to a game which has been around forever.
People are idiots.

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hoosin
01.12.2012 , 03:24 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Oacan View Post
Ive just watched level 50's get utterly destroyed in pvp in less than 5 seconds...so much for balanced and "skillful" pvp.
Anyone else find this statement 100% contradictory? One of the ways that WoW will never even come close to this game is the fact that people could twink out their characters and dominate in lower lvl pvp. All I have to do is walk in a warzone and heal people for once to stand a good chance at winning. Imagine that, healz win.

WoW took way too long to deliver on the things that fans really wanted(sound familiar EQ?). 6 years of live to stop twink domination by adding experience? Which never actually stopped it. As a pvp'er in all games, I can already see that they've taken more things into consideration with the launch than most games do in their whole run. With that said, the real test will be to see what they do with their feedback. This is, after all, a skeleton version of the game.

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Kohsar
01.12.2012 , 03:25 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by quakereject View Post
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Sorry, musical FOTM classes every few months does not a good pvp system make.
The Game has been out less than a month. Operatives are able to drop people in 2 seconds and growing in population. = Fotm.
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KonduitX
01.12.2012 , 03:31 PM | #46
I know this game is NEW and your all FANBOYS but look at the facts guys.

At least WoW has separate level PvP brackets, Premade vs Premade battleground options, Arena and World PvP objectives.

What's SWTOR PvP like right now? level 50 premades with stacked expertise gear farming random solo queues that are 20 levels below them.

How can you NOT say WoW PvP is better than TOR's right now as it stands?

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maradigamer
01.12.2012 , 03:34 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by KonduitX View Post
I know this game is NEW and your all FANBOYS but look at the facts guys.

At least WoW has separate level PvP brackets, Premade vs Premade battleground options, Arena and World PvP objectives.

What's SWTOR PvP like right now? level 50 premades with stacked expertise gear farming random solo queues that are 20 levels below them.

How can you NOT say WoW PvP is better than TOR's right now as it stands?
Well, for one thing, premade vs premade bracket never stopped WoW premades from destroying us in the pug bracket. I lost over %90 of my games in WoW no matter what bracket I was in and no matter what faction I played. I only lose about %60-%70 of my games in SWTOR. That alone makes SWTOR pvp better than WoW pvp.

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KonduitX
01.12.2012 , 03:34 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by hoosin View Post
Anyone else find this statement 100% contradictory? One of the ways that WoW will never even come close to this game is the fact that people could twink out their characters and dominate in lower lvl pvp.
Twink domination isn't a factor when you have level 50's queueing with level 10's. This whole argument is flawed bro.

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ZeusThunder
01.12.2012 , 03:36 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by KonduitX View Post
How can you NOT say WoW PvP is better than TOR's right now as it stands?
Because for me and many other people not having cross-server queues trumps everything else.
Now if TOR introduced cross-server for PvP then I'd say WoW PvP was better. The OP wasn't specific though, he just asked which we thought was better. He didn't ask for example, "which do you find more responsive?"
When making a new post if you can't even take the time to use basic grammar and spelling, why should I take the time to give you a proper response? Using poor English in forum posts is an invitation to be trolled.

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KonduitX
01.12.2012 , 03:36 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by maradigamer View Post
Well, for one thing, premade vs premade bracket never stopped WoW premades from destroying us in the pug bracket. I lost over %90 of my games in WoW no matter what bracket I was in and no matter what faction I played. I only lose about %60-%70 of my games in SWTOR. That alone makes SWTOR pvp better than WoW pvp.
Actually you can't premade against a pug in a 15-40 man BG. If you REALLY lost 90% of your games your either just lying or just a complete fail.