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DeeckTator
01.12.2012 , 02:37 PM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by JNewell View Post
It may be that you will have to OC the RAM to get that 1066 speed. If you know how then buy it, if not buy the 4gb G Skill off newegg for $46 bucks IMO, its ddr2 800 which is what you have now.
Not if he buy 1066 rated RAM and his MB has ratios between Front side bus and memory clock.

I would in any case just swap the MB,CPU and RAM to a intel system. Much better overall than AMD. Hope AMD can strike back coz we need competition on the CPU market.

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daeseer
01.12.2012 , 02:38 PM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by LionRampant View Post
I'll tell you what genius - why don't you run SWTOR and then hit ctrl-alt-delete and check your task manager - tell us how much available RAM you have. See unlike you I'm not just GUESSING I have the FACTS at hand.

Memory is almost completely irrelevant so long as you have enough. We are talking about the difference of half a percent from the slowest to fastest DDR2. You know *nothing* about hardware, please be quiet from now on.
When I'm running TOR on Win 7 Enterprise, with very little else running, I'm usually over 4 GB used.

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daeseer
01.12.2012 , 02:39 PM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by Chevex View Post
Okay but is there any reason to go with the $30 sticks over the $20 ones?
Well, the ones you have are DDR2 800, so if you run the $20 ones it might downclock the others.

Probably wouldn't make a huge difference, but I'm not sure.

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Orizuru
01.12.2012 , 02:42 PM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by DeeckTator View Post
Not if he buy 1066 rated RAM and his MB has ratios between Front side bus and memory clock.

I would in any case just swap the MB,CPU and RAM to a intel system. Much better overall than AMD. Hope AMD can strike back coz we need competition on the CPU market.
AMD is down for the count on desktop CPUs. And for good reason.

I read something about a month ago that basically said they all but pulling out of the market and are going to focus almost exclusively on their mobile chip designs.

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Wilford
01.12.2012 , 02:42 PM | #125
Don't upgrade anything for SWTOR unless you are having problems in another game. This game is terribly optimized for a number of computer configurations.

I have:

i7 2600K @ 3.4ghz
16GB Ram
2 GTX 580's in SLI

I'd have to run it again cause I haven't in a couple months but my computer averages over 70fps on the Unigine DX11 benchmark with 4x AA and tesselation on extreme... Yet I get bogus fps in SWTOR... Sounds like some terrible optimization to me.

And I get worse performance than people with half of the hardware that I'm running. Bioware will eventually fix their game like Trion World did with Rift, Funcom did with Age of Conan and Mythic did with Warhammer Online's performance.

The funny part of that statement is all those games failed because of their terribly optimized launch... Maybe Bioware should have taken note.

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Chevex
01.12.2012 , 02:43 PM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by daeseer View Post
Well, the ones you have are DDR2 800, so if you run the $20 ones it might downclock the others.

Probably wouldn't make a huge difference, but I'm not sure.
Oh ***, I thought I filtered by DDR 2 800 so I assumed they both were. I didn't look at the description.

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Chevex
01.12.2012 , 02:46 PM | #127
Okay. So I'm down to this stick for $30 or this stick for $25. What would be the reason to spend five more dollars?

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daeseer
01.12.2012 , 02:47 PM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Wilford View Post
Don't upgrade anything for SWTOR unless you are having problems in another game. This game is terribly optimized for a number of computer configurations.

I have:

i7 2600K @ 3.4ghz
16GB Ram
2 GTX 580's in SLI

I'd have to run it again cause I haven't in a couple months but my computer averages over 70fps on the Unigine DX11 benchmark with 4x AA and tesselation on extreme... Yet I get bogus fps in SWTOR... Sounds like some terrible optimization to me.

And I get worse performance than people with half of the hardware that I'm running. Bioware will eventually fix their game like Trion World did with Rift, Funcom did with Age of Conan and Mythic did with Warhammer Online's performance.

The funny part of that statement is all those games failed because of their terribly optimized launch... Maybe Bioware should have taken note.
You're really telling a guy with 3 GB of RAM not to upgrade? Seriously?

You know, bash the engine all you want. But at least think for a few seconds before you chime in on a thread like this please.

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daeseer
01.12.2012 , 02:48 PM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by Chevex View Post
Okay. So I'm down to this stick for $30 or this stick for $25. What would be the reason to spend five more dollars?
The $25 ones look reasonable to me. They've gotten pretty good reviews on Newegg as well, for what that's worth.

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DeeckTator
01.12.2012 , 02:48 PM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by Wilford View Post
Don't upgrade anything for SWTOR unless you are having problems in another game. This game is terribly optimized for a number of computer configurations.

I have:

i7 2600K @ 3.4ghz
16GB Ram
2 GTX 580's in SLI

I'd have to run it again cause I haven't in a couple months but my computer averages over 70fps on the Unigine DX11 benchmark with 4x AA and tesselation on extreme... Yet I get bogus fps in SWTOR... Sounds like some terrible optimization to me.

And I get worse performance than people with half of the hardware that I'm running. Bioware will eventually fix their game like Trion World did with Rift, Funcom did with Age of Conan and Mythic did with Warhammer Online's performance.

The funny part of that statement is all those games failed because of their terribly optimized launch... Maybe Bioware should have taken note.
The Game doesn't like hyperthreading/hypertransport, like 80% of games on the market today. HT is for multitasking, not running a game. A I5 beats a I7 @ same clockspeed at 75-80% of games. In serious multitasking the I7 outperforme the I5.