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SWTOR: More innovative than FPS's


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Spetsnazos
01.12.2012 , 12:56 PM | #11

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Gleneagle
01.12.2012 , 12:57 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Spetsnazos View Post
guess everyone agrees
Not at all.

There is just as little point in trying to correct your point of view as there is in your ever posting it in the first place.
The great oak is just one little nut who stood his ground.

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TheHeadCapper
01.12.2012 , 12:58 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Spetsnazos View Post
Oh you aren't looking for a discussion you are look for people to justify your opinion.

Question for you, when i quit WoW i didn't hang around the forums because well that would kind of be sad. Why do you spend your time on a forum for a game you don't like?

Wouldn't you be better off moving on to something you enjoy? If you like WoW you would probably be happier playing it so move on.
The formula 'two plus two equals five' is not without its attractions

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Nighenhale
01.12.2012 , 12:58 PM | #14
Btw I wonder if anyone bought the game because of it's innovation. Personally I bought it because it is a Bioware game and fully voiced. I wasn't looking for innovation, but the focus on stories and the VA is innovation enough for me.

The game has many problems, as every game does, but lack of innovation is not one of them.

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Spetsnazos
01.12.2012 , 12:58 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by TheHeadCapper View Post
Everything is more innovative that FPS's. FPS's are the most stagnant game type in the industry putting out the same games over and over again. LOL at people who think Modern Warfare is "innovative".
BF3 is innovative

brb suppression system
brb lasers/flashlights that are directional
brb LOTS of vehicles
brb destructible environments
brb jet and car simulator all in one
brb bullet drop system+bullet travel

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AirshipGirl
01.12.2012 , 12:59 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Elross View Post
so wait, you call it innovative to have features of another game. Umm, I could be wrong, but that would make it Less innovative if it copied every feature from other games.
Well if they can't even get basic MMO stuff into the game how can they say their game is innovative. BTW other games used VO in their quest long before Bioware, Bioware just took it to a new level of use. Other games have companion systems. Otehr games did many things this game does, and do it better in some instances. The space game doesn't even touch SWG's FTL and it was released 5 years before SWTOR.

Bioware can sing their own praises all they want, the truth is their game has a lot that needs polished, added and reworked - bloated skills for classes anyone? How will they add more skills when the increase the level cap? We are all ready filling up our hotbars with skills. Imagine what this game will be like when they increase levels and add more skills.

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Kasperion
01.12.2012 , 12:59 PM | #17
To be considered "innovative", you have to take the current and add to it.

In terms of storytelling, I would say BW is extraordinarily innovative. This game has done things with storytelling that I find irreplaceable. Games in the future will need to take cues from it.

However, in terms of the game's functionality, BW is having to move forward just to get to the current. A true innovator would not ignore the innovations of their competitors, they would incorporate and try to improve on those innovations. Unfortunately, BW did not do this.

Quote: Originally Posted by Elross View Post
so wait, you call it innovative to have features of another game. Umm, I could be wrong, but that would make it Less innovative if it copied every feature from other games.
If all you did was copy it? Sure. A true innovator, though, would copy it, improve on it, and then implement it. Or, if you truly wanted to recreate the wheel, you had better be sure that your "innovation" furthers whatever functionality you're going for.

If you created the automobile, and two weeks later, I created a wagon, I'm not very innovative.

If you created the automobile, and two weeks later, I created a Ferrari, I'm awesome.
In whatever heinous realm that it squats.

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Spetsnazos
01.12.2012 , 01:00 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by TheHeadCapper View Post
Wouldn't you be better off moving on to something you enjoy? If you like WoW you would probably be happier playing it so move on.
No I enjoy the single player aspects of the game and hope they let us play offline. I have hope they can still fix their issues instead of gloating about innovation.

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TheHeadCapper
01.12.2012 , 01:00 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Spetsnazos View Post
BF3 is innovative

brb suppression system
brb lasers/flashlights that are directional
brb LOTS of vehicles
brb destructible environments
brb jet and car simulator all in one
brb bullet drop system+bullet travel
Almost all of that was in BF 1942. BF 1942 was innovative.
BF BC was innovative for the desctuctible environments.

BF3. I play and enjoy BF3, but it's not innvotive, it's rehashing old BF games.

So i take it you haven't played any of the previous BF games?
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lunabaguna
01.12.2012 , 01:03 PM | #20
Group loot
Class quests spanning 1-50
Voice acting
Cut scenes
Non-restricted fast travel
Crafting/gathering done by companions
Companions (5 unique classes to level with you)
Companion storylines
Space combat minigame
3 war zones, hard mode flash points, endgame raid, and 2 open world pvp zones at launch
Lightside/dark side
Completely moddable armor (unlike wow which only had slightly moddable)
Immersive combat that requires strategy not button spamming


Just to name a few. This game has an incredible amount of features that others don't. Just because it dosnt have a few features that you think are important dosnt mean they aren't right.
Wow was copying Mario Brothers in every respect.
-A world (or many worlds)
-the color red in game
-you have to buy it