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The Expertise stat has to go...

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The Expertise stat has to go...

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CapuchinSeven
01.12.2012 , 10:53 AM | #641
Equal gear and using tactics and skill to win PVP matches? MADNESS MADNESS I SAY!
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NessusFett
01.12.2012 , 11:47 AM | #642
Quote: Originally Posted by CapuchinSeven View Post
Equal gear and using tactics and skill to win PVP matches? MADNESS MADNESS I SAY!

for serious

how awesome would that be to take it a step further than buffing everyone to "level 50" stats to just have set "pvp" stats sets for each class

balanced. then you could make pvp gear for visual distinctions and out of pvp buffs
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Sookster
01.12.2012 , 02:14 PM | #643
I much rather pvp gear have higher stats than expertise, a reason to get the gear just to have a higher health pool, more willpower or strength or aim or such along with extra accuracy, alacrity or defense rating than regular level 50 gear. Still an advantage but not so significant that expertise does at the moment (20% is a huge difference).
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Rollento
01.12.2012 , 02:19 PM | #644
Expertise is ok for a pvp stat, but im not sure about the bonus damage to players thats a bit too much.

Expterise is needed because lets face it if PvP didn't grant anything to players doing it, no one would. Illum faced the same problem in this game.

The truth is if anything, PvP gear should have not came out when the game launched. They should have delayed it by 2-3 weeks to compensate for new players etc. Yes, pvp may have suffered in the beginning, but we wouldn't have 100s of threads of people complaining about nerfing expertise etc.

TLDR: Expertise is fine, PvP gear should have been delayed.

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Cutnail
01.12.2012 , 02:20 PM | #645
If you get rid of it... then you might run into the issue of pvp gear being equal or better than pve gear or maybe more easy to obtain. I hope BioWare can see this through? I am losing faith in their ability to seek out all possible senarios and testing properly before going live with stuff.

The stat is way too powerful. I would be up for removing it or just lowering its effectiveness.

Hey at least we have a good slick AH right? oh nevermind that comment.
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BDutch
01.12.2012 , 02:22 PM | #646
Just add a separate unranked WZ queue where everyone's stats are normalized.. bolstered, capped, no expertise bonuses applied. Also, no rewards that could lead you to buy expertise gear in this unranked queue. Then people that want to PvP for gear can, and people that want to PvP for PvP can.
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The sentinel PVP armor is PINK and POOP colored with golden ******* and a clown helmet my brain is not able to make any sense out of. Then some sort of giant bug from the Jetsons has attached itself to the left shoulder.

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Suzut
01.12.2012 , 03:08 PM | #647
Instead of dividing the warzones into 1-49 and 50, just get rid of expertise. There's no reasonable argument for including it in the first place, whereas there are good reasons why you would want a one tier warzone (faster queue times).

That or allow us to mod our <50 gear to have expertise. The entire 49 to 50 jump is way too great a divide.
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Khoraji
01.12.2012 , 03:25 PM | #648
Quote: Originally Posted by CapuchinSeven View Post
Equal gear and using tactics and skill to win PVP matches? MADNESS MADNESS I SAY!
I dont know if you know this or not... but this is an mmoRPG, your character is skilled, not you. Tactics play a part. And the gear is available for everyone. It isn't their fault they worked to get it and others didnt.

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Khoraji
01.12.2012 , 03:27 PM | #649
Quote: Originally Posted by Suzut View Post
Instead of dividing the warzones into 1-49 and 50, just get rid of expertise. There's no reasonable argument for including it in the first place, whereas there are good reasons why you would want a one tier warzone (faster queue times).

That or allow us to mod our <50 gear to have expertise. The entire 49 to 50 jump is way too great a divide.
Umm, there are alot of reasonable arguments. How about some PvE'er with epic raid gear that has never PvP'd coming in and owning everyone because his gear is better. Expertise is the best way to seperate PvPers and PvEers

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TehMerc
01.12.2012 , 03:35 PM | #650
Quote: Originally Posted by Khoraji View Post
Umm, there are alot of reasonable arguments. How about some PvE'er with epic raid gear that has never PvP'd coming in and owning everyone because his gear is better. Expertise is the best way to seperate PvPers and PvEers
Reverse it, make expertise something that increases damage done to NPCS and healing/mitigation in a flashpoint/operation and you've effectively killed any reason anyone might complain about pvp gear screwing over new 50s.

But I doubt you'd enjoy pvp as much heh.