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Operative PvP video 10k crits. WOW

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Operative PvP video 10k crits. WOW

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Jooji
01.12.2012 , 08:34 AM | #241
Quote: Originally Posted by Vant View Post
That's great, what's your Class, Advanced Class, Specialization? What weapon do you use? Coming here and stating that you haven't broken that does not mean that you can't. Everyone can, a little research on youtube proves this. Some classes do it with abilities that tick multiple times like Sorcerors. Others do it with a big BOOM, like Scoundrels. I don't think people quite get this.
People are just obsessed with numbers. Most don't realize that once the Operative opener is done the operative is worthless. My first 50 was an operative and while it was fun insta-gibbing undergeared lowbies, you don't typically take a geared 50 under half his health on your opener...and once you're out of stealth your damage is just awful, especially if the player is good and doesn't let you backstab.

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Rawrie
01.12.2012 , 08:39 AM | #242
i love the part when he heals himself, pretty balanced

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Ravenolf
01.12.2012 , 08:45 AM | #243
I have been messed up pretty bad by operatives. That said, we do need to wait for the brackets before a clearer view of class balance can be seen.

I would imagine that is Bioware's plan as well.

Brackets are the first step to more balanced game play.


EDIT: I do fear ops more then any other class at the moment.

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KismetTKM
01.12.2012 , 08:53 AM | #244
Here's the thing... Using Rogues as an example:

An opener should set the tone of the fight, nothing more.

An opener shouldn't be your end-all way to win the fight.


Rogues have 3 openers: Cheap Shot (a stun), Ambush (burst damage), or Garrote (a silence).

That's how they set the tone of the fight. Their big damaging moves actually come from their out of stealth abilities: Backstab, Hemorrhage, Eviscerate, Mutilate, Envenom etc...

What they need to do with Operatives is give us more options.


Let us choose:

Do I want to silence this Sage that's constantly healing?
Do I want to spike damage open on this light armored class?
Or do I want to stun somebody trying to carry the ball?

The problem with Operative now is our opener does all 3 pretty much and is our only means of really taking chunk damage.

The entire class needs reworked, imo.
Kismet
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We are but a chosen few.

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Whatevr
01.12.2012 , 08:59 AM | #245
I can do that much damage on my assassin if you give me 10 seconds .

Are assassins balanced and everybody else is OP or are we just UP?

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Ravenolf
01.12.2012 , 09:00 AM | #246
Not an attack, just curiosity. Your signature. "Any man who appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Any man who cannot take care of himself without that law is both. "

Is that an anarchy motto? Trying to place where this is from.

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KismetTKM
01.12.2012 , 09:01 AM | #247
Quote: Originally Posted by Ravenolf View Post
Not an attack, just curiosity. Your signature. "Any man who appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Any man who cannot take care of himself without that law is both. "

Is that an anarchy motto? Trying to place where this is from.
It's the Omerta. The Italian mafia's code of silence. Basically meaning: fight your own battles.
Kismet
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To those whose job it is to take lives so that others may live...
We are but a chosen few.

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Ravenolf
01.12.2012 , 09:07 AM | #248
Quote: Originally Posted by KismetTKM View Post
It's the Omerta. The Italian mafia's code of silence. Basically meaning: fight your own battles.
Gotcha. Neat, thank you.

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Sepha
01.12.2012 , 09:11 AM | #249
Have watched this guy on Stmp's stream a bit and he's a pretty bloody good Operative and well geared. They play in a group too, so he is definitley getting help here.
Crowded elevators smell different to midgets.

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pixelelement
01.12.2012 , 09:13 AM | #250
Quote: Originally Posted by Shredbull View Post
Oh look, operatives saying operatives aren't overpowered. Oh yeah, nearly 1 hitting enemys with an opener directly out of stealth knocking them down aswell isn't overpowered at all. The fact they can even do this is self explanatory that they should be nerfed, big time.

Ohplease, by the way, stop defending a class you so like to abuse yourself. Yes, that's what it is, abusing. 10k crits. Nuff said.
Its not OP's/JC's its stacking buffs that allow them to hit this hard. It's not the class its the stacking of buffs that need's to be fixed.
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