Tank stats in PVP

Well this explains a lot of things rather well.

I'm curious about this aswell.

Tank in PvP, playing with 3 friends.

1 tank (w. 500 expertise).
2 healers.
1 assassin for Guard, Taunt and AOE taunt.

Unkillable.



Tank solo-queue

Very killable :P

Fixed.

^^^lol!

I dunno, but am I the only one here thinking tank survivability is fine?
I mean all this could change when fighting only against 50s, but currently I feel like really hard to kill even without a healer.

So the real point of this topic is, are Defense Rating and Shield/Absorb Rating useless in PvP? No they are not, because they mitigated some kind of attacks!

Do they need to be buffed so tanks get even more damage resistant in PvP? I don't think so...

The conclusion that tanks could use offensive mods/gear in PvP is quite okay for me, but still you lose some kind of mitigation with reducing your defense stats.

The math looks right to me, but in practice it works a tad differently.

- Rocket Punch has a 9 sec CD for 1263 Kinetic dmg (Affected by armor) and reduced to 619 after all reductions.
- Flame burst has no CD for 749 Elemental dmg (Not affected by armor) and was reduced to 681 after all reductions.

Even with talents to proc the CD resets on Rocket punch every 4.5 secs, which was 619 dmg / punch ==> 619 dmg for 4.5 sec CD (3 GCDs If you have 2/2 Flame shield and it procs on every opportunity) ==> 206dmg / GCD

Flame burst is 681 / Burst with a 1.5 sec CD (1 GCD)

Only reason to use Rocket punch over flame burst is if you have Flame Surge specced 2/2 for the 30% higher crit dmg or you need the Ion Gas Cylinder DoT from Ion Overload.




Shame because as a 18/2/21 Powertech both my mitigation with shield is garbage, along with my main ability to deal dmg because Rail Shot is a weapon dmg skill and is subject to all forms of mitigation.

Do tanks feel harder due to their defence skills or due to their armour attributes?

The isssue here is about one (Shielding) of three types (Armor, Evade/parry, Shielding) of mitigation which only works against a minority of attacks in PvP. Why should any Tank use Tank gear in PvP if it does not help them longer?

In general:
Armor: Constantly reduces kinetic and energy damage (not internal or elemental)
Shield: % chance to reduce incoming damage by %, not able to shield crits
Defence: % chance to ignore damage, can be reduced by accuracy of enemy players

As you see the three types of defence have different purposes, and against all types there is a counter type. (Internal/Elemental damage skills, Crit rate, Accuracy) Two of them can be changed simply by using those attributes on your gear.

And a Tank spedning any item points in tanking attributes on the gear reduces his dmg output. A fair deal I would say.
Spending a lot points into tankings stats to find them almost useless in PvP is a joke.

Another point most people do not see is, that at least 2 tank classes (Trooper, JK) have talents that base on a shield proc. (Shadow I do know to lesss to say if they too) Those talents get wasted in PvP if they can't rely on the shield procs.

i often face tanks that manage to be nearly indestructible even without healer. i dont know what happens if shield/absorb starts working on most attacks.

Spamming Ion Pulse/Flame Burst costs a lot of energy. Every second burst will drop its user into lower energy regen tier.