The Expertise stat has to go...

Agreed. We really should have a PvE stat and not a PvP stat. It only makes it difficult to get to the point that one is competitive considering soon you will be attacking people in battlemaster gear who have a 20% damage swing on you ( they do 10% more than you and you do 10% less). A PvE stat would solve this ie you deal 10% more damage to a mob. Putting you at a disadvantage to PvP geared people but not making it seem impossible to compete.

Thats it in a nut shell. We dont want PVP becoming an elitists e-sport that no one plays. All that we need is a set damage reduction for using a PVP set. No scaling between tiers.

I dont have time to raid. I love to pvp. Why does pve gear have to be better then pvp gear. You do not need expertise to make pvp gear equal. If you coulx get different setz of pvp gear that had the same stats as pve gear then you would not have to raid.

If they put in high stat mods to earn from pvp then you could make your fav armor equal to pve armor. You do not need expertise to compete with pve gear.

It would just be a different way to get gear which is the whole point. If you need expertise to beat someone in pve gead then maybe you need more practice.

I only wish I had the power to look at each person's account that has posted in this thread to see which ones have most of their PvP gear and which do not.

I have a feeling the ones that try to justify the existance of the stat are the oens who spent alot of time grinding to get the gear. Its only a hunch, but if its true, Id have to say that definatly would skew an opinion from being unbias.

Also wanted to say, I have seen a couple of poeple suggest moving the expertice stat from the PvP side ot the PvE side. I think these people need to get free college scholarships because in their moment of epiphany could very well change BioWare's Pvp system form being a frustrating hassle to an enjoyable act.

A level 50 PvP bracket simply will not save the PvP in this game.

There is no logical explanation for having a PvP stat in this MMO game, or in fact any MMO game. The only possible reason for Expertise to exist in this game is to screw over people who cant grind it first.

Even if you did have a 50's only bracket, you'd be creating more problems than you're fixing. Aside from all the obvious queue time issues, the 50's bracket will suffer from the exact same problems we have now; the bracket will divided up into New 50's and Old 50's, ie. people who dont have their 10% Expertise bonus yet, and those that do.

But you might say, "Everyone will become an Old 50 eventually." and yes, they might. But then what would be the point in everyone having the same 10% Expertise bonus, when all it's going to do is cancel out everyone elses 10% Expertise bonus. The only outside issue there is that healing will still be 10% stronger, but if you wanted that why wouldn't you just lower the Trauma debuff by 10%?

It's honestly unimaginable to even begin to hope to understand what anyone was thinking when they thought putting Expertise into the game would be a good idea.


Removing the stat doesn't mean PvP Gear has to go, the point of PvP Gear/Experience/Credits in the first place is so that people who want an alternative to PvE can still progress. There all kinds of stats in this game that mean you could make all kinds of PvP Gear Sets, whether they are Purple or Mods, so people can look however they want to, or however you want them to look, and they can mix and match all these different pieces of gear to whatever their hearts desire. To give you an idea of the combinations of gear that could be possible:

- Primary Stat
- Endurance

• Crit Rating
• Surge
• Alacrity
• Power

Now reverse the Primary Stat and Endurance, so that Endurance is the bigger of the two and look how much choice you have... something for everyone, even. Now when you're 50 and you arent bolstered anymore, you can decide which stat you want more of, in return for lower stats on other stuff, or you can even decide to have an equal balance.

A crazy thing, having a choice, isn't it? Like choosing to have Fun over Frustration. Or choosing to resubscribe... or perhaps not.



I'm not even mad.

A level 50 PvP bracket simply will not save the PvP in this game.

There is no logical explanation for having a PvP stat in this MMO game, or in fact any MMO game. The only possible reason for Expertise to exist in this game is to screw over people who cant grind it first.

Even if you did have a 50's only bracket, you'd be creating more problems than you're fixing. Aside from all the obvious queue time issues, the 50's bracket will suffer from the exact same problems we have now; the bracket will divided up into New 50's and Old 50's, ie. people who dont have their 10% Expertise bonus yet, and those that do.

But you might say, "Everyone will become an Old 50 eventually." and yes, they might. But then what would be the point in everyone having the same 10% Expertise bonus, when all it's going to do is cancel out everyone elses 10% Expertise bonus. The only outside issue there is that healing will still be 10% stronger, but if you wanted that why wouldn't you just lower the Trauma debuff by 10%?

It's honestly unimaginable to even begin to hope to understand what anyone was thinking when they thought putting Expertise into the game would be a good idea.


Removing the stat doesn't mean PvP Gear has to go, the point of PvP Gear/Experience/Credits in the first place is so that people who want an alternative to PvE can still progress. There all kinds of stats in this game that mean you could make all kinds of PvP Gear Sets, whether they are Purple or Mods, so people can look however they want to, or however you want them to look, and they can mix and match all these different pieces of gear to whatever their hearts desire. To give you an idea of the combinations of gear that could be possible:

- Primary Stat
- Endurance

• Crit Rating
• Surge
• Alacrity
• Power

Now reverse the Primary Stat and Endurance, so that Endurance is the bigger of the two and look how much choice you have... something for everyone, even. Now when you're 50 and you arent bolstered anymore, you can decide which stat you want more of, in return for lower stats on other stuff, or you can even decide to have an equal balance.

A crazy thing, having a choice, isn't it? Like choosing to have Fun over Frustration. Or choosing to resubscribe... or perhaps not.

the point of PvP Gear/Experience/Credits in the first place is so that people who want an alternative to PvE can still progress.

But you might say, "Everyone will become an Old 50 eventually." and yes, they might. But then what would be the point in everyone having the same 10% Expertise bonus, when all it's going to do is cancel out everyone elses 10% Expertise bonus. The only outside issue there is that healing will still be 10% stronger, but if you wanted that why wouldn't you just lower the Trauma debuff by 10%?