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Dungeon Finder Needed Badly.

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JasonSlam
01.11.2012 , 05:48 PM | #501
and how is battletags going to fix server communities? The servers will still be dead, and if someone doesn't pay the extra fee that is latched on to battlenet to play with friends that is meaningless anyways.

Even if they implement this feature for free (which they already charge a monthly additional fee to use real tags to do this) All this is doing is alienating the servers them even more. As

I posted before I formed a small group of people in this game (some from the past game) and never have problems getting a group together to do a flashpoint. It is not hard to form a guild and have reliable people to run with.

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Sooper
01.11.2012 , 05:58 PM | #502
Quote: Originally Posted by JasonSlam View Post
and how is battletags going to fix server communities? The servers will still be dead, and if someone doesn't pay the extra fee that is latched on to battlenet to play with friends that is meaningless anyways.

Even if they implement this feature for free (which they already charge a monthly additional fee to use real tags to do this) All this is doing is alienating the servers them even more. As

I posted before I formed a small group of people in this game (some from the past game) and never have problems getting a group together to do a flashpoint. It is not hard to form a guild and have reliable people to run with.
erm the real id thing is free even to group with other people, and the cross server raid thing will be free too. i dont know where you are getting this extra fee crap from but its entirely untrue.

And having a guild builds a server community. Doing runs with just your guild isnt a community and is no different than using the LFD.

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Umbral
01.11.2012 , 06:22 PM | #503
Quote: Originally Posted by mangarrage View Post
Honestly a server only LFG I think alot of people would welcome with open arms

xserver bad idea

You see all the bs on these forums about ninjas, looting for companions etc, when you deal on a server side people are going to be a little more wary about the choices they make in a group especially with guilded people

In xserver any jerk can just grab everything and not care cause he has little chance to see those people again

Thats pretty much it in a nutshell

Problems is there are so many people who play that are jerks and dont care about the group or the success

Never understimate the power of a server community. People can get blacklisted very quickly on a server but not across 200
Blacklisting a player on a server simply doesn't work, and never has.

It would be terrible if it did work. Can you imagine the number of people carrying out petty little vendettas by lying about another player?

Jerks were all over these games long long before LFG/LFD tools, and there was never any way to avoid them. With the tools you can at least make the choice to leave a group they're in because you're confident you'll get a group again relatively soon. As opposed to how it REALLY was back in the "good ol' days", and how it is in SWTOR currently. The game becoming more and more of a miserable experience from slogging through instances with complete and utter tools just because you desperately want to finally complete the run.

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ChannelledAnger
01.11.2012 , 06:23 PM | #504
***** for this thread sry you need to post to rate D

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TheJagji
01.11.2012 , 06:25 PM | #505
SW:TOR dose not need a dungen finder, as it has no dungens.

However, a Flashpoint and Heriocs finder would be handy. :P

I do agree tho that it needs to be server only finding.

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Umbral
01.11.2012 , 06:27 PM | #506
Quote: Originally Posted by sithlordcip View Post
look at this folks, perfect example of a wow baby spoon fed with LFD LFR while he waits for queue afking in ORG or SW.

No , sorry but we won't let people like you ruin this game too
Ok there Mr. Namecaller. You be the first one on these forums to actually be able to explain how countless people standing around and spamming LFG messages builds a fricken community.

You can't. You know why you can't? Because it's a completely stupid idea.

You're saying YOU are a community minded player? Obviously that's the biggest crock that's been posted on these forums today.

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Umbral
01.11.2012 , 06:32 PM | #507
Quote: Originally Posted by dtim View Post

TOR doesn't need a system right now but it probably will eventually.

Also, does anyone really sit around SW/Org while in the dungeon finder? I'm always out doing dailies or *shudder* archaeology. The only time I sit in the city is when I'm waiting on real-life friends. :P
So just what are you saying? The hundreds and hundreds of people that have been posting about this issue since release have all been lying? Maybe if the community team around here wasn't either blind, or completely biased, they would actually be truthful and impart the importance of getting a LFG/LFD tool in place to the powers that be. Instead of apparently only passing on viewpoint of a handful against it.

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DamionSchubert
01.11.2012 , 06:41 PM | #508 This is the last staff post in this thread.  
Improving our LFG system is high on the list of features that Systems Design wants to add to the game. We want this to be good not just for helping people find Flashpoints and Operations to run, but also other multiplayer content like heroic missions. A key emphasis will be on advertising for specific role needs (healer, tank, DPS). This feature is currently in the design stage, and once this feature has moved beyond this to a development stage and has a firm ETA, I'll be coming back to you guys to give more details.

We've known we would need to revisit this feature for a while. In the level-up game, finding players isn't too rough because, with few exceptions, everyone in that level band is either on your planet or on the fleet. Once more and more players hit endgame, and are spending their time in more places, the need for this feature is going to increase. Note that right now, high level players have the opposite problem - there aren't enough other players up there to group with. This problem will dissipate as the game ages, and more players reach the later levels.

That being said, our design team doesn't philosophically believe that cross-server Flashpoints are good for the game at this stage in the game's lifespan. There is huge social pressure to not be a jerk that goes away when the odds that you will never see these people again is high. I'm not saying never - there may come a time in the future where we reevaluate this - but at least in the short term, we believe this will cause more damage to the community than good.

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dargor-
01.11.2012 , 09:06 PM | #509
Quote: Originally Posted by Umbral View Post
It really is getting worse now that the bulk of the release day people are getting nearer to max. It's mind boggling they haven't announced that they'll be adding a LFD tool as soon as they can already. Jan. 20th is looming. It's like BW is holding a gun to their own head and looking at everyone with crazy eye yelling "I'll do it! I'm crazy enough to do it! See I didn't put it in at release! See how nuts I am!"

Frankly, after having watched these forums from day one, it is really shouldn't be a surprise for me. BW has been fooled all along by the "community" that hung around here. The most vocal and bullying were these anti-progress types, and it would appear that BW never actually did their due diligence to see if that bunch actually represented the players that would come to play their game. Or it might be that a biased CM team didn't "want" to. Now we have a game where how we play it is getting dictated by a comparative handful occupying a small number of "specialty servers".
Liked the analogy
Quote: Originally Posted by Creslan
And PVP hardcores are second class citizens. You're like the guest that won't leave and can't take a hint your not wanted so you just hang around making it miserable for everyone else at the party.
Indeed.

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Teladis
01.11.2012 , 09:11 PM | #510
I've been spending most of my time playing Dark Souls, while our group leader spams tells and gen chat.



You really think I'm going to spend money a month for this ****? I'm more furious that they did not have this crap day one. The whole excuse they gave is a bunch of crap.


For making me even go through this **** again, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.