Why is there a copy protection system in the graphics, and is it crippling the game?

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Why is there a copy protection system in the graphics, and is it crippling the game?

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Tiron_Raptor

01.11.2012 , 12:49 PM \| #491
Quote: Originally Posted by miliways Think about how long it takes steam to decrypt your files. You wouldn't need the entire 20GB to be unencrypted every time you play, but still, there's no way its decrypting all the game assets in real-time. If somebody can provide a counterexample, I'd be thrilled, but I've never heard of a game decrypting major assets in real-time. Lots of games like doom and quake would zip some of their assets, but a zip is quicker to unzip than secure encryption, and files were smaller. They might encrypt the config files or a program file or something small, but the entire games grahpics? I guess this goes back to the "its just a few character models, the rest aren't" argument, which doesn't make much sense. Why, again? The speculation as the moment is that it's an attempt to break private servers, by essentially making some of the assets unavailable to them: It's the only plausible thing anyone's come up with to explain why you might do such a thing. I can't see simple encryption accomplishing that, however. With access to the client, which we all have, you could pretty easily break the encryption. There'd have to somehow be some kind of element that wasn't present in the client necessary to the process.
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Baedun

01.11.2012 , 12:49 PM \| #492
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSublimitas Stephen, I have a Masters in IT - I can point you in the dirction of this particular piece of technology. If indeed it is being used, then this poses a lot of problems - not only redering isssues but placing pieces of software on people's computers that they are not aware of - there could be serious legal ramifications if the latter is the case... I do NOT have a "Masters in IT" but I CAN understand plain English! He said they do not use anything like that - /tinfoilhat

nonforma

01.11.2012 , 12:49 PM \| #493
Quote: Originally Posted by miliways Think about how long it takes steam to decrypt your files. You wouldn't need the entire 20GB to be unencrypted every time you play, but still, there's no way its decrypting all the game assets in real-time. If somebody can provide a counterexample, I'd be thrilled, but I've never heard of a game decrypting major assets in real-time. Lots of games like doom and quake would zip some of their assets, but a zip is quicker to unzip than secure encryption, and files were smaller. They might encrypt the config files or a program file or something small, but the entire games grahpics? I guess this goes back to the "its just a few character models, the rest aren't" argument, which doesn't make much sense. Why, again? Well the decryption would be on-the-fly, so only as needed. And it's quite possible, especially with caching and pre-loading. You can encrypt entire hard drives boot an OS on them, decrypting/encrypting as you go. I'm not aware of any other MMO doing this but there's always a first with new copy protection methods.

AaronPenick

01.11.2012 , 12:50 PM \| #494
/signed Interesting info and glad they are at least responding to this.
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Elderath

01.11.2012 , 12:50 PM \| #495
Quote: Originally Posted by StephenReid [color=#f9d648]For example, our 'ability delay' issue is being addressed by the development team right now] Really? When will we see this fix going live?

Katharis

01.11.2012 , 12:50 PM \| #496
Quote: Originally Posted by zerosaint Dr. Freud would like a word with you sir. (I'm sorry I know it's just a word-choice slip up, but given these forums it's pretty darned funny). It threw me for a second as well, but it's actually not a boo boo. He's referring to what he stated in the previous sentence - the 'extreme speculation' part, which is what doesn't help rational informed discussion.
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Elderath

01.11.2012 , 12:51 PM \| #497
Quote: Originally Posted by StephenReid For example, our 'ability delay' issue is being addressed by the development team right now] Really? When will we see this fix going live?

ANEKiii

01.11.2012 , 12:52 PM \| #498
Such an interesting thread.. Always wondered why my HD goes ape with activity. Subscribed!
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agrippa

01.11.2012 , 12:52 PM \| #499
Quote: Originally Posted by Baedun I do NOT have a "Masters in IT" but I CAN understand plain English! He said they do not use anything like that - /tinfoilhat Having "A Masters in IT" makes me think you went to a national university and not somewhere reputable. That is also like Saying I have a masters in science, very non specific.

FaithInChaoz

01.11.2012 , 12:52 PM \| #500
all i can say this thread is absolute lame, pull yourself together guys, stop speculating on things that are beyond you. since i know bioware for so long, actually they are 1 of the only company that ONLY THINKS FOR THE GAMERS, not for the CASH and thats practicaly proved by the years althou with EA involved they might turn bioware visions into the $$$, i just hope they will keep their spirit up and dont give up to EA greediness :P and i`m certain if anything stupid like this as the OP suggest is involved Bioware 10000% will first talk to the gamers about this before anything else what i can say... lame thread is lame

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