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3 medals for 524k healing ~~ nice medal system BW

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3 medals for 524k healing ~~ nice medal system BW

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Leiloni
01.11.2012 , 10:25 AM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by StrandtheMan View Post
I am not sure on what basis other than the OP (and many other healers) is not fully utilizing his character in the Warzones.

At the end of a match, look at the stats of everyone who gain 7+ medals. You'll see they did more than just DPS...they got protection or healed. Nearly all Advanced Classes are going to give you the ability to either gain protection points (damage mitigated from the enemy to teammates) or healing (if I have to explain this...that's why you can't get more medals).

I DPS, but I take the time to constantly make sure my few abilities that taunt enemy players are always active, so they are dealing less damage to my teammates and I'm getting more medals. Healers can do the same. Deal at least 1 damage to 10 different enemies and since you get a kill when they die...boom...instant medal. Deal a little more damage during the 10 minute match...and you got yourself 75k damage medal and 25 kills medal.

You can also skill guard objectives and heal...thus earning objective medals. The fact is...you must do more than just one type of role in a Warzone if you want to earn more medals. I will admit, it is slightly easier for a tank to guard someone and deal DPS at the same time, but that same amount of time it takes him to guard that person and stay close, is just as difficult as it takes you to target someone and click a damage ability.

You should be helping deal damage anyways when there arent that many people around. Not everyone needs heals 24/7. We're big boys and can take care of ourselves...if not...we die and you can say "I told you so". :P
That's been said 20 times already in this thread. For one thing, if we can spare the force and GCD to throw out some damage at people then the fight is not exactly a close one. Second and perhaps more important, is that we shouldn't have to do that. If I'm dpsing it should be because it's my best choice at that point in time, not because I need to farm medals. A healer shouldn't have to focus on farming medals in a warzone. He should earn enough medals by simply being a good team player and doing his best in any way possible to help his team win.
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=1753652#edit1753270

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bakedpotter
01.11.2012 , 10:33 AM | #182
A healer spec that only does damage the whole round and doesnt heal anyone can barely crack 100k damage, so no we can not just damage guys and make up for the lack of medals. Casting affliction alot helps and can get you regularly up to 6-7 medals if you have the gear to survive peoples focus on you and do a great job healing in the process (alot harder to dowhen we have to stop and cast dps just to compete. Regardless, mercs and sorcs that hybrid build can easily get 75k heals just healing themselves and deal 400k+ damage and easily average 9+ medals a game and they dont keep noone alive but themselves.

System is garbage.

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StrandtheMan
01.11.2012 , 10:36 AM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
That's been said 20 times already in this thread. For one thing, if we can spare the force and GCD to throw out some damage at people then the fight is not exactly a close one. Second and perhaps more important, is that we shouldn't have to do that. If I'm dpsing it should be because it's my best choice at that point in time, not because I need to farm medals. A healer shouldn't have to focus on farming medals in a warzone. He should earn enough medals by simply being a good team player and doing his best in any way possible to help his team win.
I apologize for not reading all the other posts...I went through the first 4 pages and decided to throw my two-cents in (my opinion).

You answered your own question...you shouldnt have to throw some damage around to earn some healing medals...and you don't. However, should you want to earn more medals...than you will have to.

As DPS, I shouldnt have to worry about taunting enemy players every 15 seconds as I just want to deal damage and work on objectives. After all, it's not free for me to do so as it takes resources and time away from my DPS. However, doing so helps the team and helps me...so I would do it even if there were no medals. The thing is...medals arent a given right just because you do one role really well...they are earned. If you do things outside of your normal role, you will be rewarded as such actions are usually helping your team even more. Think of it as "going above and beyond".

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Rhazesx
01.11.2012 , 10:39 AM | #184
Its really sad but Bioware is not going to fix this they hired Warhammers pvp team and they hate healing in pvp, they have said it multiple times.

If you hit 400+ healing you can easily top damage charts and get 6 or more medals easily every single game. I respeced to dps and yes I lose a ton more games but I'm getting 40% more tokens, 3-5 more medals and 2-3 mvp votes every single game.

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Leiloni
01.11.2012 , 10:44 AM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by Rhazesx View Post
Its really sad but Bioware is not going to fix this they hired Warhammers pvp team and they hate healing in pvp, they have said it multiple times.

If you hit 400+ healing you can easily top damage charts and get 6 or more medals easily every single game. I respeced to dps and yes I lose a ton more games but I'm getting 40% more tokens, 3-5 more medals and 2-3 mvp votes every single game.
WTB word from a Bioware rep. I have seen threads on the topic of PvP healing since beta and I have yet to see any official word from Bioware on their stance on the subject. I think we need to hear it. Do they agree that healing needs to be fixed, that the healing debuff is total trash and the medals gimp us? Or do they think everything is fine and dandy. Because myself and other longtime MMO PvP healers would like to know before we waste too much of our time. If I should be respeccing to dps in SWTOR and finding another MMO to get my PvP healing fix, let me know now.
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=1753652#edit1753270

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Idockdudes
01.11.2012 , 10:44 AM | #186
The problem is that they give medals in a way that promotes people to play as hybrids instead of focusing on a particular role.

Also the individual role they give the most medal to is DPS. There are a few ACs out there that cant do anything but DPS.

The way to fix this would be to increase the rate that you get medals past the easy ones for certain roles. The problem is they would have to do this while also making sure they didnt make it too easy for certain ACs to get TOO MANY medals.

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Sumwun
01.11.2012 , 10:50 AM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by Kesal View Post
Somebody call this guy a whambulance, and get him some fries for his whamburger.

No. Son't call the OP a wambulance. Someone should call you a Creative Thinking Tutor to come up with your own comments if you plan on continuing to post.


the OP makes a solid point. Especially when Healers are in such High demand. Why would someone want o go heal, when they could dps half as good get just as much, if not more?


People want heals but forbid some heal love got spread around.

First thing I look for at the end of a WZ is heals, then objectives/protection, then medals. then DPS.


Problem with many Pvper's is that most are Tropemonkeys and vote for DPS seeing it's the Epeeniest.

Granted, when I am in a BG with a player who does 300k plus dmg, and other stats don't tell me he was farming kills and nothing else, I vote for the DPS.
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ururururu
01.11.2012 , 10:51 AM | #188
Signed.. Healers should get the most medals.

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Leiloni
01.11.2012 , 10:52 AM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by Sumwun View Post
First thing I look for at the end of a WZ is heals, then objectives/protection, then medals. then DPS.


Problem with many Pvper's is that most are Tropemonkeys and vote for DPS seeing it's the Epeeniest.

Granted, when I am in a BG with a player who does 300k plus dmg, and other stats don't tell me he was farming kills and nothing else, I vote for the DPS.
I never vote for dps in a warfront. I pay attention to who else besides me is healing and look at the scoreboard to see which healer has contributed the most and vote him MVP. Or I vote the guy with the most protection points that was keeping us healer's alive.
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=1753652#edit1753270

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Jooji
01.11.2012 , 10:54 AM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by OldManRelic View Post
While I understand your frustration, the only way a tank (or any class, for that matter) is getting 10 medals is if they are doing effective damage along with another role (tanking, healing, whatever). Throw damage out along with healing, and you, too, will get 10+ medals.

I realize that is anathema to a certain segment of the MMO population -- a healer can...use...their damaging abilities?!?!?! Yes. Yes, they can. Just like how the tank, who got 10 medals, uses his tank abilities and his damage abilities.
What is a tank supposed to do in between taunt CDs? Oh yeah, use his damage abilities that he has talented as well. Where's the talents in my heal tree to dps? Oh yeah, they don't exist.