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The Truth About MMO's: SWTOR > WoW

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The Truth About MMO's: SWTOR > WoW

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Bhorzo
01.11.2012 , 10:44 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Maigrey View Post
the article you linked lost me at.

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how is $300 milion at a rate of $15 per month account for 6.7 million subscribers

$300M/$15 = 20 million
Aren't subscription totals calculated every 3 months?

20/3 = 6.7

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Thorbrand
01.11.2012 , 10:46 AM | #92
SWTOR could have beat WOW but they will not. To much instancing not enough persistant worlds. This alone will have most MMO gamers leaving after the free month. The whole game is a grind and is completely mapped out for you. This is a single player game not a MMO design.

If they don't fix the bugs that have been around since the betas they are not going to keep subs also and CSR in this game is very poor for a launch.

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Azzras
01.11.2012 , 10:49 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by AlpsStranger View Post
Yep, and it's not like there's a recurring pattern where everyone tries a new MMORPG for a month and then goes back to WoW. Nope, that *never* happens.

See where we are in three months and this might be impressive.
Who on earth would want to go back to WoW?

I'd just quit gaming if that were my only option at this point.

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supertouch
01.11.2012 , 10:50 AM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Thorbrand View Post
SWTOR could have beat WOW but they will not. To much instancing not enough persistant worlds. This alone will have most MMO gamers leaving after the free month. The whole game is a grind and is completely mapped out for you. This is a single player game not a MMO design.

If they don't fix the bugs that have been around since the betas they are not going to keep subs also and CSR in this game is very poor for a launch.
wow is a single-player game with a multiplayer option. everything is instanced and you level up by doing mundane quests.

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Drayzen
01.11.2012 , 10:52 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Thamelas View Post
Here's a fact. A lot of people are throwing around statements how this game will never be as big as WoW. Well I've got some bad news for you. It its almost already equal. That's right!

The fact is that Blizzard is bleeding subs like a sieve. Also add in the fact that the majority of Blizzard's player numbers are from Asia. Also add to this that Blizzard inflates their numbers with creative accounting. Even during the days of its highest popularity, it only had maybe 2 to 4 million US subs, and MAYBE the same in Europe.

So with that said, given WoW's decline, I am willing to bet that SWTOR, as of right now, is on track to meet and surpass WoW in US and European subscribers.

Reference: http://daeity.blogspot.com/2010/08/b...n-numbers.html
You say these things, then you present no facts. I have no other option than to say that your statements are unfounded with no ACTUAL data to back them up. Consequently, I have ignored everything you said as self promotion and propagation of your subjective view of the MMO gaming industry.

Good day.
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Bhorzo
01.11.2012 , 10:52 AM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by supertouch View Post
wow is a single-player game with a multiplayer option. everything is instanced and you level up by doing mundane quests.
Right. And if SWTOR was better than that, it may have been more successful.

We'll see how Guild Wars 2 does, and whether people actually want anything different or not.

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Drayzen
01.11.2012 , 10:55 AM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by supertouch View Post
wow is a single-player game with a multiplayer option. everything is instanced and you level up by doing mundane quests.
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supertouch
01.11.2012 , 10:56 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Drayzen View Post
yeah. seriously. go play a real mmo.

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Cameirus
01.11.2012 , 10:56 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Thamelas View Post
Here's a fact. A lot of people are throwing around statements how this game will never be as big as WoW. Well I've got some bad news for you. It its almost already equal. That's right!

The fact is that Blizzard is bleeding subs like a sieve. Also add in the fact that the majority of Blizzard's player numbers are from Asia. Also add to this that Blizzard inflates their numbers with creative accounting. Even during the days of its highest popularity, it only had maybe 2 to 4 million US subs, and MAYBE the same in Europe.

So with that said, given WoW's decline, I am willing to bet that SWTOR, as of right now, is on track to meet and surpass WoW in US and European subscribers.

Reference: http://daeity.blogspot.com/2010/08/b...n-numbers.html
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heres another: The earth revolves around the sun


What you have is opinion and supposition.

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Qlimitus
01.11.2012 , 10:57 AM | #100
In order for SWTOR to become successful it has to bring in more content and sooner.Right now there are lvl 50's pvping and it will only be a matter of time,before they get bored and move on.Im guessing these " predicted " figures will drop substantially outside of the free month as there is already word on a lot of people not resubscribing at the end of it.
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