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The Truth About MMO's: SWTOR > WoW

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The Truth About MMO's: SWTOR > WoW

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Beliad
01.11.2012 , 09:34 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Razot View Post
Hmmm thats Interesting! as a former NC member in EVE I would have sworn the Russians all played EVE..
Playing EVE? You mean botting until they need to smother something in super caps right? : b

Plenty of time there for them to be playing every other MMO out there.

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Thamelas
01.11.2012 , 09:36 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Isgarot View Post
after this Swtor its just too much on rail..... roll an alt its almost the same ... 99% of quest are just the same except for a unique class quest for zones
News flash...so is WoW. You can say its not on rails all you want, but the fact is that its a theme park MMO and you can only quest in certain zones at certain times.
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Zhit
01.11.2012 , 09:39 AM | #83
If this was 2005--I'd agree with you. TOR has about 30 days of staying power. Not quite the juggernaut I was hoping to play.

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Isgarot
01.11.2012 , 09:39 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by Thamelas View Post
News flash...so is WoW. You can say its not on rails all you want, but the fact is that its a theme park MMO and you can only quest in certain zones at certain times.
in wow you have a lot of different zones that share the same level range (in the base words) and the first 2 in wtlk and cata ... but they are expansion ...just a way mooore than swtor

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Zhit
01.11.2012 , 09:41 AM | #85
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News flash...so is WoW. You can say its not on rails all you want, but the fact is that its a theme park MMO and you can only quest in certain zones at certain times.
But you have multiple choices of where to grind out those levels. There are literally thousands of quests to chose from when leveling in WoW.

With TOR you have a few hundred. Ever toon has to follow the same order of planets and run 95% of the same quests each time. The only variation is the class quest.

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Beliad
01.11.2012 , 09:59 AM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by Thamelas View Post
News flash...so is WoW. You can say its not on rails all you want, but the fact is that its a theme park MMO and you can only quest in certain zones at certain times.
You say this but it isn't quite true, there is far more choice in WoW than there is here and has always been. You could actually level 3 characters and never cross over questing paths this is pretty much impossible in SWTOR as there are only 17 actual zones. compared with the 40 in the Vanilla release of WoW.

There are 3 starting paths in WoW for alliance alone.

Night Elves/Worgen/Draenei -> Teldrassil -> Darkshore -> Ashenvale -> Stonetalon -> Desolace -> Feralas -> Tanaris -> Un'goro -> Silithus (though you typically hit 60 in un'goro if you did dungeons as well)

Dwarves/Gnomes -> Dun Morogh -> Loch Modan -> Wetlands -> Arathi Highlands -> Hillsbrad -> Hinterlands -> Western Plaguelands -> Eastern Plaguelands

Humans -> Elwynn Forest -> Westfall -> Redridge Mountains -> Duskwood -> Stranglethorn Vale -> Swamp of Sorrows -> Blasted Lands

This doesn't even cover all the paths available either, you could split off at 40 and go to Searing Gorge -> Burning Steppes or go Felwood -> Winterspring or maybe even a small jaunt into Azshara. All of these routes were completely inter-changable with you being able to jump into quests anywhere on your level range.

Horde have a similar breakdown, with their starting points in different locations however there is more overlap on the Kalimdor side.

It was only with the expansions that levelling paths pretty much all joined to give the more on rails approach, though WotLK and Cata have given a choice of 2 starting zones each which is still more choice than SWTOR currently offers.

You may talk about content all you like but this game and many others do not share the sheer amount that was available to even Vanilla WoW players.

SWTOR is good and I hope it does well, I'm enjoying it but I'm pretty tired of the weird comparisons that are horribly bad.

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supertouch
01.11.2012 , 10:00 AM | #87
most wow subscribers had never played an mmo and don't know what's good for the genre long-term. it's sad that the mmo standard is based on wow's popularity when it did nothing to improve upon or innovate the genre. wow is nothing more than linear dungeon crawls and instances (a terrible addition to mmos). imagine if every movie made from now on was similar to the twilight series.

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Maigrey
01.11.2012 , 10:08 AM | #88
the article you linked lost me at.

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Sales during those months were negligible, so their monthly subscriptions totaled approx. $301.75 million gross worldwide.

At a rate of $15 per month, that only accounts for 6.7 million active subscribers! That's almost 50 percent
!

how is $300 milion at a rate of $15 per month account for 6.7 million subscribers

$300M/$15 = 20 million

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Keling
01.11.2012 , 10:11 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by supertouch View Post
most wow subscribers had never played an mmo and don't know what's good for the genre long-term. it's sad that the mmo standard is based on wow's popularity when it did nothing to improve upon or innovate the genre. wow is nothing more than linear dungeon crawls and instances (a terrible addition to mmos). imagine if every movie made from now on was similar to the twilight series.
Comparing WoW to the Twilight series really? I think you need to stop the nerd rage for a second. This game may do well, but you are smoking something if you think its going to kill WoW. The only thing that is going to kill WoW is when Blizzard announces its next MMO so you might as well get back to enjoying either one you play.

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supertouch
01.11.2012 , 10:41 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Keling View Post
Comparing WoW to the Twilight series really? I think you need to stop the nerd rage for a second. This game may do well, but you are smoking something if you think its going to kill WoW. The only thing that is going to kill WoW is when Blizzard announces its next MMO so you might as well get back to enjoying either one you play.
what? i just said wow sucks and that it shouldn't be the standard for mmos.