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Operative PvP video 10k crits. WOW

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Operative PvP video 10k crits. WOW

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Rasui
01.11.2012 , 01:24 AM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by Redru View Post
Wrong. My commando with full buffs, half battlemaster gear and half champion gear, sitting over 11% expertise, using warzone powerup rakata stim, adrenal, and rakata power relic can hit my demolition round for 7k. This is AFTER I hit my target with 3 Gravrounds to get the 25% more powerful demolition round. 10k is impossible. 9k is impossible. and 8k is impossible. I can't imagine the 4 remaining champion pieces I have after upgrading them to battlemaster would make a 7k crit (when all stars align) turn into a 10k crit. The champion upgrade to battlemaster is a lot smaller then centurion to champion.

Also, my 7k crit (when all stars align) has to be setup. I can't do it from stealth. i have to channel 3 1.5 second case attacks that anyone of them can be interrupted. The enemy has many oppertunities to get out of line of sight or interrupt and engage me to stop me setting up my big hit.

I personally can kill OP's as long as I have my Tenacity (pvp trinket) up because of the autofacing gravround (and charged bolts when they interrupt gravround). But if I don't have full health, pvp trinket, and rakata medpack off cooldown, I'm dead. There is nothing I can do if I don't have those 2 abilities and full health available to me when an OP does his stealth knockdown.

I recommend everyone roll an OP/scoundral (scrapper) as an alt to protest this ridiculous burst damage.

Yes gunnery commando's are a strong class, But we are weak to 2 things. We cannot kill GOOD healers (no interrupt), and we are stationary for everyone to see and kill and be interrupted. Our 'interrupts' (our 2 knockbacks which have to be melee and 10 meter range) start filling up resolve bar. So interrupting 2 times and then stunning for the kill (which they will trinket) now makes them immune to everything and they can just spam heal our damage.
For how long exactly can you blast away from range before you need to reload? Also, you're aware that this is a team game right?

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redbul
01.11.2012 , 02:31 AM | #172
so who all is rerolling operative?

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Kizzpald
01.11.2012 , 07:59 AM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by redbul View Post
so who all is rerolling operative?
I will be

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Lord_Karsk
01.11.2012 , 08:05 AM | #174
Doing regular 8-10 k crits. Amazing... Yeah lets all re roll as Operatives and we can have 8 vs 8 WZ only ops forever and ever,,,,

And the funny thing is, there are still those few who live on these forums who dont want their OP Operative nerft so they cry out that it's not OP blabla.And BioWare developers give us no hope they will actually fix this huge problem.The way they ignore the PvP forum and all feedback.But you can find then in general etc talking to people about armor looks etc.

Way to go BioWare in losing those subs

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BambamKauri
01.11.2012 , 08:13 AM | #175
i play a commando with full champions + weapon and full dps build with trinket up and all my procs my highest crit ever is 4.4k... stop defending this class... no class should be able to do 70% of someones hp in 1 global

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bantros
01.11.2012 , 08:18 AM | #176
Quote: Originally Posted by Shredbull View Post
9928 crit fillowed by a 6630 crit. Oh no not strong at all. I'm sure any class can pull this damage off.

You do realize that people who make videos like this just find it extremely hilarious they have such a huge advantage and only have to press 3 buttons to kill anyone, then restealthing and healing themself
Yeah and it was against a level 26... what do you expect?

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Lord_Karsk
01.11.2012 , 08:35 AM | #177
Quote: Originally Posted by bantros View Post
Yeah and it was against a level 26... what do you expect?
I'm sry what you were saying ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP-Vn...3epE1sg3jMItMr

Give it a rest alredy...

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Derity
01.11.2012 , 08:37 AM | #178
Plz dont nerf im just about to roll one
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Slickerpunk
01.11.2012 , 08:40 AM | #179
Looks like he is wearing pve gear? So he is going to have more cunning than with pvp gear typically, he has a 15% marauder buff, 2x 15% expertise buffs and from the looks of it, he is stimmed up the ***. If you use all of the above versus someone else that does not have expertise, it is totally possible and tbh, not worth crying over.



How to fix it?

A: Make some sort of negative aspect for the 15% expertise buffs (like WoWs berserking buff - 30% more daamge, 15% more damage taken) so it is not too much of a bonus and have no negative. Also, make it so the one you pick up and consumable are not stackable.

B: Change stims so they cannot be used in warzones OR make other professions have some sort of bonus that can be used in pvp as well (passive or not - ie: cybertech grenades).

C: Tweak Expertise so it is more like resiliance in WoW - it reduces crit chance and overall damage taken by players, but it doesnt INCREASE your damage.

I think c is the biggest problem right now. Players without expertise are being completely obliterated because they not only do less damage to players WITH resiliance, they are taking MORE too. The idea that expertise will cancel itself out amongst equally geared players is a good idea, but it makes getting expertise whhile other players have it painful and a little absurd, tbh.

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Awthtem
01.11.2012 , 08:47 AM | #180
I don't have a problem with the burst dmg so much. Its the knockdown cooldown and ability to recloak, heal, then instantly come back and do the same thing right away that sux.
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