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Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

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Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

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Fendril_Tharkun
01.11.2012 , 04:40 AM | #751
Operatives are not OP - yes they have immense burst and if they OPEN on you they will most likely win in a 1 on 1. but after that if you survive and especially in group pvp this alevates realy quickly. In contrast the real big dps currently comes from all those troopers and bounty hunters which is ridicolous!

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zqsd
01.11.2012 , 04:47 AM | #752
Operatives are op.

Fix this ridiculous burst please.

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DarkeGBF
01.11.2012 , 05:16 AM | #753
Quote: Originally Posted by zqsd View Post
Biochem is op.

Fix this ridiculous burst please.
Fixed.

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zqsd
01.11.2012 , 05:37 AM | #754
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkeGBF View Post
Fixed.
You won't lure anyone with biochem.

While it clearly needs a nerf too, op and scoundrels are overpowered anyway, even w/o biochem.

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DarkeGBF
01.11.2012 , 07:35 AM | #755
Quote: Originally Posted by zqsd View Post
You won't lure anyone with biochem.

While it clearly needs a nerf too, op and scoundrels are overpowered anyway, even w/o biochem.
Not particularly, no.

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Jnaathra
01.11.2012 , 07:39 AM | #756
Quote: Originally Posted by Fendril_Tharkun View Post
Operatives are not OP - yes they have immense burst and if they OPEN on you they will most likely win in a 1 on 1. but after that if you survive and especially in group pvp this alevates realy quickly. In contrast the real big dps currently comes from all those troopers and bounty hunters which is ridicolous!

I see comments like this all the time. The BHs and Troopers are not bursting anyone down like OP/Scoundrels are. They are doing a moderate amount of AOE dps that looks FANCY on the warzone scoreboard at the end of the match. In the end they weren't killing anyone in 5 seconds.

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gevrik
01.11.2012 , 07:44 AM | #757
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Wäh, wäh, wäh, wäh, wäh, nerf!
That's all I read. Give him his comforter back already!

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Miothan
01.11.2012 , 07:48 AM | #758
Quote: Originally Posted by Urusai-Baka View Post
I like this comment.

Any class played properly all of a sudden makes then Overpowered.
I've only noticed that Sorcerers deal a lot of dmg and have that annoying heal, but that's how they are made
In what way are Sorcerers dealing "a lot of damage" ? you must be thinkng of SUSTAINED damage, not burst, since the only "Burst" sorcerers has, is when we proc Chain lightning from force lignthing, and that combo is maby 4-5k if you take the full duration of Force lightning, so what is "a lot of damage" ?

Scoundrels might not be able to do sustained damage, but they do kill anyone they target in my experience. Not like they build up their damage over time, they do it in a few gcd's
Immorality: The morality of those who are having a better time. ~H.L. Mencken

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Tristine
01.11.2012 , 07:50 AM | #759
Quote: Originally Posted by Jnaathra View Post
I see comments like this all the time. The BHs and Troopers are not bursting anyone down like OP/Scoundrels are. They are doing a moderate amount of AOE dps that looks FANCY on the warzone scoreboard at the end of the match. In the end they weren't killing anyone in 5 seconds.
Call me in when it comes to toning down OPs/Scoundrels. Having a burst class is ok, when that class however can kill you in 3-5 sceonds even without buffs is beyond absurd and pretty much negates even gearing up for the purpose of surviving said burst.

I am pretty sure that Bioware will do something against it, but i guess it will take quite a while since pvp is a minor issue for pretty much all MMOs except those that advertise for pvp.

Of course no one ever admits that his/her class might be overpowered since they are having fun the way it is. Always the same, did not change in a decade and will never change.
Balance fixes will come in a couple of month, maybe too late when pvpers will jump the GW2 ship.

Had enough occasions where Scoundrels would use their opener on me and 70% of my hp just went down the toilet, of course if you got even the slightest delay in counteracting, your are simply dead (like static barrier does not trigger since you just casted and game delay wont allow you to cast static barrier instantly).

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Toothsome
01.11.2012 , 07:59 AM | #760
Quote: Originally Posted by Jnaathra View Post
I see comments like this all the time. The BHs and Troopers are not bursting anyone down like OP/Scoundrels are. They are doing a moderate amount of AOE dps that looks FANCY on the warzone scoreboard at the end of the match. In the end they weren't killing anyone in 5 seconds.
lol you met some bad BH, they can burst someone down in3-4 like any scoud/ops if they trinket up and use bio chem like us..


almost any DD can, scoundrels just get that extra stun so he cant counter aswell.