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Scared of swtor being a fad


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Mikael
01.11.2012 , 03:27 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Arlia View Post
For the first 2 months.
When it drops a million in the next 4 months, i'm sure it will go F2P before 2013.
WoW will go free to play before SWTOR does... maybe even in 2013 as you mentionend.
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ColonelColt
01.11.2012 , 03:27 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Varghjerta View Post
Actually some people do seem to have been treating this game as a second coming and when they realised that was just a game and that it isnt 100 % perfect,

They stay on the forums trying to bash it before they leave.
Fun part is that most people that did that is now treating GW2 as the second coming lol they will be in for a surprise :P
People just never learn lol

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TheFugitive
01.11.2012 , 03:28 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by HavenAE View Post
ALL MMOs say that crap.

Like Arenanet claiming traditional MMO aspects are out the window with Guild Wars 2
Yeah right, it'll be the same old, it'll just have a different coat of paint painted over the fresh coat SWTOR just did.



Judge a game for what it is, never buy into the developer's hype.
Agree.

Any company will hype their product up, they rarely if ever deliver everything they claimed they would.

It's been going on for decades, even merchants of ancient times did this, to get others to buy their product, only difference now is media/net spreading it at a much faster rate, and to more people.

I'm not saying it's right, but it certainly isn't unheard of, it's common practice.

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Ganadorf
01.11.2012 , 03:31 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Mikael View Post
WoW will go free to play before SWTOR does... maybe even in 2013 as you mentionend.
Lol

Why would WoW go free to play, at any point in the foreseeable future? Do you even understand the concept of... money?

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Jswizzle
01.11.2012 , 03:32 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by ColonelColt View Post
Exactly, I knew TOR was gonna be a wow-clone with a SW skin, I bought it because I enjoy wow gameplay and it's a good timesink for a month or two. So I have to lol at people who bought it thinking it was some grand thing, or bought it for the story or some other stupid reason. After all the countless MMOs that have lied like this, you'd think people would learn not to believe developers.
Have you never played a bioware game before?

You might of had some strange notion of the game, but being a fan of Bioware games I knew what I was getting. Do a little research, play some of there other games. You know, be an informed consumer.

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Arlia
01.11.2012 , 03:33 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Mikael View Post
WoW will go free to play before SWTOR does... maybe even in 2013 as you mentionend.
So only like 6 months of MoP....
I highly doubt that.
Wasn't worth the wait.
2008-2011

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xguild
01.11.2012 , 03:36 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Ganadorf View Post
Lol

Why would WoW go free to play, at any point in the foreseeable future? Do you even understand the concept of... money?
Blizzard has all but stated that WOW will be shut down long before it ever goes free to play. That will simply never happen.

That said, It would suprise me if SWOTR went free to play, but if it does, I think it would make it the financial disaster for Bioware given the sheer amount of money spent on making this game. Unlike many MMO's that are actually massive financial success contrary to popular belief like Warhammer Online for example, the reason these games are so strong is that they cost considerably less to make than what they earn. Warhammer Online actually had a very small budget, they just had an awsome and very experianced team working the game thanks to their other success like Dark Age of Camelot. So a game success can't be judged by its subscriber numbers. Eve Online for example at one point only had about 5,000 users and it was sufficient for the developer to cover its costs and even make money on the game.

Its all about how much you spend to make it. SWOTR needs a lot of subscribers for a very long time to make up those millions they spent to make the game.

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cholojim
01.11.2012 , 03:37 AM | #58
I think this game is not a clone to wow reminds me a lot of Kotar which I liked the only complaints I have ever really herd of this game is about the stuff that's diferences then wow like class quest VoiceOvers and phaseing I honestly remember playing Kotar before I had played wow and this game to me seems like what I thought it would be a Kotar mmo

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jdela
01.11.2012 , 03:38 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by ColonelColt View Post
Actually, they DO want to play something else. The problem is every new MMO, TOR included, just copies WoW. So it ends up not being something new and they ask themselves "why play a new, unpolished game when I have WoW?" That's why wow clones never succeed, if people wanna play wow, they'll play wow.
No they don't. Every request I ever see is to add in features from WoW. Or WoW has this or that. Us old time EQ folks were not even as bad and we pretty much hated everything WoW was. Eventually EQ got old, DAOC got old and we moved on kicking and screaming. Our great hope was Vanguard, but our dreams shattered by a technical mess of a release.

Now you have the WoW folks who want 500% speed mounts, insta port to anywhere at any time, logs and meters and macros, LFD tools, and have a single goal to chase the shiny at the end. They aren't patient enough to wait, complain content is not hard enough, but when made hard complain it is hard just to be a time sink. They will complain it is too easy to level, but despise every inconvenience in a game. At times you think they want they game to play itself almost entirely like Progress Quest and at other times you think they actually want a real challenge.

They don't even like WoW, just more convenient which is basically what Rift is. I get it, I do. No MMO can be your first. And I have to assume this is how I sounded when I wanted something other than EQ. I basically wanted EQ the way it was when I remembered it at its best. But I would go back to EQ and see Luclin and see that the game I loved no longer existed. So I tried every new MMO and hated it (except DAOC), to wind up back in EQ and hating it. Eventually EQ was unrecognizable and I moved on for good, look back and realize there was good and bad there.

It has been a prolonged experience with WoW because there were so many more players. I think WoW is entering the final stages of moving on from its player base. This is the time the WoW folks will lash out the most and demand every game be WoW+. Oh there will still be nostaglia a decade from now about how WoW did things, but mixed with acceptance that not all was perfect and people have different tastes.

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Mikael
01.11.2012 , 03:41 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Arlia View Post
So only like 6 months of MoP....
I highly doubt that.
Mists of Pandaria will be a big failure... people are tired of the same old same old and cuddly pandas won't bring them back.
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