Scoundrels/Operatives ridculously OP.

Are you 50? If not, wait for pvp brackets, that will solve your particular problem. If you are, then your real problem is with biochem, because he was using stims/adrenals to get massive stat boosts. The class itself is not to blame, it's the scaling of certain stats that needs to be toned down.

You don't sound convinced of your own argument if you only offer $20 lol

Also everyone game is a MMORPG not a 1v1 game

ive said this many times

ops/scoundrals are not op (not even close x.x)

they provide almost no utility to actual team fights the only contribution to a fight they can make is try and dps down something

other then doing quick burst damage they dont have much of anything else to use

I will agree that they are broken they do too much dps and not enough utility for a team fight



also as a side note

Even with a lvl 50 with maxed champ gear the ops/scounds do way to much burst

Its not a gear/level disadvantage

considering you have stealth and seeing how the shield lasts for 30seconds

its quite easy to just wait for the shield to go out then gank a sorc because usually the sorc too busy to put up a new shield every 20seconds

Also if the sage/sorc isnt specd into healing force shield costs a insane amount of force

quite silly to think that if sorc/sages would just make force shield our number 1 priority it would justify how broken ops are -_-

also you say the problem is the consumables? uhm.. ops seems to be the only class that are causing the consumables to be a problem.

I dont hear anyone complain about a healers using consumables p;

Yes Im 50 and have 5 champ pieces and 2 centurian pieces. The guy didn't have biochem buff or stims. I had a good chat with him after the battle, in which he told me himself how he the damage is too much. I actually said to him, your the first operative to actually admit how overpowered you are, to which he said, well yea most people will defend there main class no matter what. A second operative did exactly the same thing in the next few battles, and I just gave up.

Theres not many of them I see but when I do it's just gutting because I know whats likely going to come. I really dont enjoy playing against these guys, I don't hate the playeres who play them, but I get more disheartened each time I die withought getting to fight back. It's just not fun. I've got to the point now where I've added several as friends and just wont play with them in the battlezones, it's that frustrating...

This sounds very similar to what the operative I spoke to said, surely it would be more fun for you operatives/scoundrel too to have to work harder for kills and have a bit of a fight on your hands, maybe some different toys to use. As opposed to being able to insta kill people then wait for restealth or CD's?

Like I have said many times, the OP's damage needs to be turn down just a little, but the real culprit here is Biochem and them stacking expertise and consumables, go search you tube for the op doing almost 10k damage hits cause of all the stacking going on, and no other class can do this as easily either.

When it comes down to it, what they need to do it's not allow any type of mecpac (bough or made) or stims in pvp, only heal consumables bough from the pvp vendor, also, get ride of the damn expertise nods on wz's and the expertise consumable from the pvp vendor and you won't see operatives crit for 7-10k anymore, balancing the problem..

I don't know you, so I don't want to call you a liar, but if you had your shield up, and he didn't have Biochem, I find it really difficult to believe he instagibbed you with the gear you've got. I mean, I'm speaking anecdotally, but I just don't hit anywhere near hard enough to do that, even if all three attacks crit. The shield absorbs too much, and if the enemy has expertise it is noticeable. I can three shot non-50's, sometimes, I've reached that point. If they have no CD up and their gear isn't top notch I can faceplant and kill non-bounty hunters/juggs inside of the stun if I pop my trinket. But 50's, it just doesn't happen.

Was he stacking crit/surge? What were his gearing choices like? These are actual important questions, because it means the performance of the class could differ widely based on the scaling of one or two stats.

I still think the main problem is Biochem, and that a level 50 bracket will help a lot. After that gets nerfed I think everyone will need to play more games and re-evaluate how things are currently balanced.

Fixed for you PvP yesterday with my twink

Problem is that if they take out the ball carrier or the primary healer it doesn't matter if the class spontaneously explodes after that. That can easily win a WZ there with no effective way to stop it.