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Operative PvP video 10k crits. WOW

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Operative PvP video 10k crits. WOW

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SeloDaoC
01.10.2012 , 08:57 PM | #151
On my Gunnery Trooper, using expertise pot, red zone buff, rakata power pot 15 sec, relic power buff, 500+ expertise, and almost all champ gear and a 580 damage cannon i hit for 3500 on a lvl 50 pvp geared non tank, ligth/medium armor user, every 1,5 seconds. and definatly not 10k followed imediatly by 7k

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big_aug
01.10.2012 , 09:00 PM | #152
3.5k every 1.5 seconds from range is some pretty freaking serious firepower.

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Atrox
01.10.2012 , 09:02 PM | #153
A) Those types of numbers shouldn't be possible, regardless of buffs, based on current health pools.

B) Regardless of buffs, Ops still output far too much damage within far too short a window of time, on top of the other advantages they currently enjoy. This also goes for the Republic counterpart.
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LordKivlov
01.10.2012 , 09:02 PM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by big_aug View Post
3.5k every 1.5 seconds from range is some pretty freaking serious firepower.
True. However the person being hit, if they're level 50, usually take less damage than that and can pop an expertise stim to counter the one you just used. Now you're dealing around 2k crits against 17k hp + shields. Gl killing them before you run out of ammo.

Killing lowbies is easy, takes 3 GCD and they're gone because they don't have the same defensive abilities as another 50.

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SeloDaoC
01.10.2012 , 09:02 PM | #155
Quote: Originally Posted by big_aug View Post
3.5k every 1.5 seconds from range is some pretty freaking serious firepower.
not if you compare it to 17k in 1,5 seconds, on the move, and no LoS problem

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Dariuszs
01.10.2012 , 09:03 PM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by SeloDaoC View Post
On my Gunnery Trooper, using expertise pot, red zone buff, rakata power pot 15 sec, relic power buff, 500+ expertise, and almost all champ gear and a 580 damage cannon i hit for 3500 on a lvl 50 pvp geared non tank, ligth/medium armor user, every 1,5 seconds. and definatly not 10k followed imediatly by 7k
And thats pretty sick. If you watch this video you will notice the 10k hit was on a lvl28 sage. Not really comparable to a lvl50 pvp geared player is it?

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SeloDaoC
01.10.2012 , 09:05 PM | #157
Quote: Originally Posted by LordKivlov View Post
True. However the person being hit, if they're level 50, usually take less damage than that and can pop an expertise stim to counter the one you just used. Now you're dealing around 2k crits against 17k hp + shields. Gl killing them before you run out of ammo.

Killing lowbies is easy, takes 3 GCD and they're gone because they don't have the same defensive abilities as another 50.
+ that most of them starts casting heals, shields and starts to cc you back. You wont burst enough. Theres no built in incapacitate skills in gunnery coms so you cant stop them from healing, fighting you back, stunning you or force leaping to you.

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SeloDaoC
01.10.2012 , 09:06 PM | #158
Quote: Originally Posted by Dariuszs View Post
And thats pretty sick. If you watch this video you will notice the 10k hit was on a lvl28 sage. Not really comparable to a lvl50 pvp geared player is it?
I wont be doing 17k to a 28 in 1,5 seconds, hes also doing 15k to a 40 in same time, with less buffs.

Doesnt seem to suffer from the "out of stealth" weakness either, killing alot of players out of stealth while taking alot of damage.

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big_aug
01.10.2012 , 09:12 PM | #159
I have 240 expertise with biochem stims, adrenals, and trinkets and I've never come ANYWHERE NEAR a 10k crit even with the Warzone buff. Not on anyone, lvl 10-50 with whatever gear.

I think my BEST EVER opening sequence has been 5k Hidden strike crit, 3.5k backstab crit, and 2-3K shiv and lacerate crits. Plus or minus a few hundred on each. That's stacking all my stim, adrenal and relic. That doesn't happen very often. So I did 9k while the person was stunned on my best sequence.

These numbers people are posting simply are not typical. My TYPICAL HIGH END crit on hidden strike is about 4.5k.

As for the trooper, 3.5k agsinst geared 50's is just nasty man. I've gotten gunned down by them myself. You could drop someone with 5k hp in 5 GCDs without ever getting near them. Most peole have no idea what is hitting them until it's too late, especially if you're fighting someone else.

I've definitely taken three or 3-4K shots in a row from range and never saw the person until it was too late. Many times actually.

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-micah-
01.10.2012 , 09:12 PM | #160
theres an op on my server named coot thats getting pretty famous.
hes in mixed battlemaster/champ gear

i dont care what class you are or what level you are or what gear your wearing. he knocks you down and you die before you stand up.
period.

50 vanguard in my rep guild in full champ gear and he dies before he can respond to being knocked down by this op

i was in a wz with him today on empire side. he went 65-0