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Rolling need for your companion

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Rolling need for your companion

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profaneascension
01.10.2012 , 06:41 PM | #381
Quote: Originally Posted by Revenaught View Post
Those other players are more than welcome to roll on gear for their companions as well. Equal opportunity for all involved.
In that case, where does one draw the line between Need and Greed? We all have five different companions that can use various pieces of gear. Or are you saying that there is no such thing as a Greed roll anymore because you can contrive a reason to be needful of every kind of loot?

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Chiramu
01.10.2012 , 06:43 PM | #382
Quote: Originally Posted by Cavi View Post
1. Find group
2. Establish ground rules before starting
3. ???
4. Profit
One problem, D-bags don't listen and can't read...

MMORPGS just have this problem :/, it comes with the community. Like they say, "it takes all kinds"... >.>

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KippTabor
01.10.2012 , 06:54 PM | #383
Quote: Originally Posted by profaneascension View Post
In that case, where does one draw the line between Need and Greed? We all have five different companions that can use various pieces of gear. Or are you saying that there is no such thing as a Greed roll anymore because you can contrive a reason to be needful of every kind of loot?
Bingo!

This is a contrived excuse to ninja, nothing more, nothing less. The final agenda being that these selfish navel-gazers can use it as an excuse to loot for all 5 companions. The small handful of players on this thread who have been told by dozens of people that it's lamer behavior, really need to wake up and realize that most of us see through their psychobabble, plausible deniability word-salad.
Never fire a laser at a mirror. ~Larry Niven

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TheHeadCapper
01.10.2012 , 06:55 PM | #384
Quote: Originally Posted by profaneascension View Post
In that case, where does one draw the line between Need and Greed? We all have five different companions that can use various pieces of gear. Or are you saying that there is no such thing as a Greed roll anymore because you can contrive a reason to be needful of every kind of loot?
Nail on the head! We have a winner of the big first prize.
The formula 'two plus two equals five' is not without its attractions

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thecoffeecup
01.10.2012 , 06:58 PM | #385
If I can tell that nobody else uses that kind of gear and my companion does, I ask if it's OK to roll need for my companion. If so, I do. Everyone said yes so far.

I would never roll need without asking though.

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Vydor_HC
01.10.2012 , 07:00 PM | #386
Quote: Originally Posted by profaneascension View Post
In that case, where does one draw the line between Need and Greed? We all have five different companions that can use various pieces of gear. Or are you saying that there is no such thing as a Greed roll anymore because you can contrive a reason to be needful of every kind of loot?
That's right..this trying to define need and greed is really an exercise in futility. There are many many ways people have need for items, narrowing it down to what one things is appropriate invites turmoil. In the end the best approach is everyone take their chances..live with the results, and trade with others for stuff you want.

But the first rule, is don't PUG unless you set down the loot rules. Then you have all the right in the world to call a person out who breaks them.

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Slteath
01.10.2012 , 07:11 PM | #387
I actually ignore my companion, lol. they get what i loot myself.
When I roll need or greed, i just think if I can use it, never thought about if my companion needs.
like someone mentioned before, we have 5 companions, chances are, they will need like 99% of the loot. so why bother, they are like step child, just let them have left overs.

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profaneascension
01.10.2012 , 07:11 PM | #388
Quote: Originally Posted by Vydor_HC View Post
That's right..this trying to define need and greed is really an exercise in futility. There are many many ways people have need for items, narrowing it down to what one things is appropriate invites turmoil. In the end the best approach is everyone take their chances..live with the results, and trade with others for stuff you want.
But I don't think it's an exercise in futility. Allow me to illustrate the difference.

A Flashpoint boss drops a piece of loot. It's a big upgrade for that group's tank, but it's also a big upgrade for the DPS' tank companion.

Outcome #1: we give the group's tank the upgrade. He can now use it to tank the next encounter. He can also use it to run another Flashpoint, an Operation, a Heroic 2 group, and even in a solo situation no matter which companion he uses. In other words, he now performs better in his role overall because he got the upgrade.

Outcome #2: the DPS rolls Need and wins it for his companion. It cannot be used to make the next encounter easier, because he can't pull out his companion. He cannot pull out his companion in the Operation, either. He does, however, benefit in a Heroic 2 group or solo situation, but only if he uses that particular companion.

Do you see the difference?

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Breeti
01.10.2012 , 07:33 PM | #389
Don't companions deserve cool loots too? I mean they are with you more than anyone else, so you should just take everything for them. I bet that is Bioware's official stance on it.
Have they fixed Ability Delay?

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traft
01.10.2012 , 07:34 PM | #390
I get flooded with whispers asking me to tank stuff whenever I log on with my PT but I only tank for guild groups. There are too many morons out there to waste time and effort on these mouth breathers who would take loot for a companion ahead of someone who needs it for themselves.