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Operative PvP video 10k crits. WOW

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Operative PvP video 10k crits. WOW

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yukirshiro
01.10.2012 , 05:13 PM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by SgTBobby View Post
It's funny to watch even level 20-30 OP/Scoundrels beat people twice their level in 2 seconds.
Hidden strike is a level 36 trainable. Acid blade, which is the only thing which allows those damage numbers, requires level 41 as a top tier talent.

In short, you should go stand in the huttball acid and hope it makes you smarter.

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RealAeiouy
01.10.2012 , 05:14 PM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by Sevvy View Post
Adrenal, WZ buff, Relic, Marauder 15% damage buff. Am I forgetting any?

Look at his buff bars. You people are ridiculous.

Nerf buffs/buff stacking then have another look at Operatives in the 50v50 bracket or the rated WZs where only geared people will be on top.

The problem is none of these discussions are in the context of wz impacts it is just " wowow big crits nerf" without talking about the impact on wz. If the behavior is imbalancing wz that is one thing but that is not seeming to be the case.

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LordKivlov
01.10.2012 , 05:14 PM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by JohraTon View Post
Problem here is the people who get done by these guys have half their abils on CD.

Last time this happened I got straight back up, stunned & choked then use shockwave & smash to take half his health back off him.

To hit these crits he's almost certainly using stims & relics/adrenals. When someone is using the same stuff back its not that bad.

And no I'm not an operative and really couldn't care less about them. Troopers are way worse to fight.
So you counter one classes insane damage with your own insane damage ability? GG.
Sweep (I'm assuming Smash is the counter-part) is absolutely insane. 130% increase damaged, 100% crit chance. It's gimmicky as hell but that's almost as lame as operatives.

I'm also not calling for this nerf because one operative **** on me. I'm calling for it because every 40+ operative that is worth their oxygen is capable of this. This isn't like the few sentinels out there that are wrecking people because they're geared AND skilled. These are skiless backstab spammers that are tearing through targets. It's like Tracer/Grav spam, only you can't lock the operative out of their damage except by killing them or knowing where they are to pull them out of stealth. Even out of stealth, they're scarey.

As for the troopers are worse to fight. Have you tried interupt? Oh you have? Did you know Juggernaughts/Guardians can lock a BH/Trooper out of grav round permanently, or reduce their damage to pitiful amounts of they get lucky and juke a kick? That class is countered by use of interupts and your tanks doing their job. What counters this ****? Lightning fast reaction time on your healer and tank to switch guard and drop a shield on you. Not the same in the least. While similar, you can breath gasoline all day and still kick a trooper because your interupt is off GCD so he has no idea when to attempt to juke the kick.

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Melicant
01.10.2012 , 05:17 PM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by SgTBobby View Post
Operatives and Scoundrels are hideously overpowered.

I watch one in my guild 2-hit anyone, over and over, and it makes me cry.

Of course,they think it is 'ok' and 'normal', while the rest of us know its grossly OP to the extent of being cheating to even play one.

It's funny to watch even level 20-30 OP/Scoundrels beat people twice their level in 2 seconds.

Sad really. Didn't they even test this game?

What is sad is people like you making things up to try to support a "nerf this class" argument without even understanding the issue. Scoundrels/Ops in their 20's and 30's don't even have access to the burst tools shown in the video. They are not beating anyone their own level in 2 seconds, let alone a level 50. The video is a highlight reel of buff stacking/consumables/relics used on undergeared level 20's and 30's.

Stealth classes have always been amongst the best at making selective heavily edited highlight reels. The damage isn't sustainable at all, which is why it is heavily edited. In team play against equally geared people a lot of what is being shown can easily be countered. A geared sorc+guard tank is easily a much bigger factor in any warzone than a geared operative/scoundrel with a healer.

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Kylegore
01.10.2012 , 05:21 PM | #126
the highest ive crit with my level 50 shadow is 3.3k thats with trinket also hes got 6 peace champion set also hes weak as hell compaiered to that 9k wth

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Kelticfury
01.10.2012 , 05:22 PM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by Kylegore View Post
the highest ive crit with my level 50 shadow is 3.3k thats with trinket also hes got 6 peace champion set also hes weak as hell compaiered to that 9k wth
Stackable buffs. you can do the same thing

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LordKivlov
01.10.2012 , 05:25 PM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Kylegore View Post
the highest ive crit with my level 50 shadow is 3.3k thats with trinket also hes got 6 peace champion set also hes weak as hell compaiered to that 9k wth
There is no 6 'peace' champion unless you mean you have 6 pieces of champion pvp gear, which woopie, you're still not in full epics or are a terrible spec if you're doing ****** with a shadow. Find a good shadow and emulate them, they're by no means weak.

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flooble
01.10.2012 , 05:28 PM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by Kylegore View Post
the highest ive crit with my level 50 shadow is 3.3k thats with trinket also hes got 6 peace champion set also hes weak as hell compaiered to that 9k wth
Look at my post history, I linked a 9.8k attack from an assassin (mirror class) today.

Just because YOU can't, doesn't mean it cant be done.

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Kleinone
01.10.2012 , 05:29 PM | #130
Man I wish I had rolled an Operative so I could **** people all day in PvP too. Oh well, maybe I will tonight.