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Rolling need for your companion

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Rolling need for your companion

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BigBadEdward
01.10.2012 , 03:32 PM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by Tahana View Post
Why should those be the choices.. That is just caving into the cheese monkeys that think its cute to use the common excuse instead of being called a ninja... Same people just disguised differently.
I already stated the reason, there is too many interpretations of need. The need button gives a griefer or ninja a perfect one button way to do his thing. I don't think there is a single thing you can do in a group to cause mass chaos and group meltdown quicker than just hitting need.

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Tahana
01.10.2012 , 03:32 PM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by Marlaine View Post
Companions are an integral part of your overall character. They are not your friends, they are not your alts.

COMPANIONS ARE YOU.

See, I can state an opinion as fact as well.
Wrong.. Can your companion continue to fight if you fall in a fight? Until companions can do this they are nothing more than another NPC.
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to
what lies within us. - Ralph Waldo Emerson -

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PepinoCantador
01.10.2012 , 03:32 PM | #203
Here's my question for those that are for rolling need on items for their companions -

You're in favor of the standard becoming such that everyone rolls need on everything, because they all have companions that can use the gear? You're also in favor of people using that system to roll need to vendor items, since this would be but one result of everyone always rolling need?

The worst part about this whole argument is that the character in question isn't even there. People actually have the personal belief that a tertiary, cpu controlled bot that didn't contribute in any way to the flashpoint or operation should be entitled to gear over a living person who IS contributing.

Frightening and disappointing thought, to say the least.

The best part is someone will read this and think "well they wouldn't always roll need because they'd be on the honor system" as though starting down that path didn't throw that out the window to begin with.

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Splitquick
01.10.2012 , 03:32 PM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by Marlaine View Post
It's a completely new paradigm, and people are arguing like there's some kind of precedent for this. There is none.
Marlaine after reading all posts in this thread. Yours are definitely the most infuriating. You tell people that they can't SEE your point of view, but you are completely closed off to the notion that YOU could be wrong.


So in this scenario:

You are in a full 4 player group running a flashpoint: Heavy armor drops, there is a heavy armor PLAYER in the group who NEEDS the item as an actual upgrade that he will put on immediately. You are a light armor wearer, but your PET Khem Val could use the upgrade. Do you roll need on it?

That scenario is all that needs to be figured out to see what kind of player you are. And if in the end, you cannot, in ANY way, see anything wrong with your companion taking gear from a player character who you are grouped with, then I feel sorry for you, because you are lacking a very basic emotion.

You are probably also immature, and do not play well with others :P

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laparkuh
01.10.2012 , 03:33 PM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by Ukucia View Post
By endgame, you have companions that can use pretty much every weapon and armor type. So you're not going to protect against ninjas disabling that button.


THIS!....What happens when people have 4-5 companions? Can I need for each individual one? Since they all do help me in soloing you know...Pretty sure that means I can need on almost every drop in a flashpoint...

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Marlaine
01.10.2012 , 03:34 PM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by Tahana View Post
Why should those be the choices.. That is just caving into the cheese monkeys that think its cute to use the common excuse instead of being called a ninja... Same people just disguised differently.
Your use of ninja further highlights your inability to understand the big picture. Get it through your head. It is a FACT that Bioware integrated companions to be a clear part of your overall character. You cannot ignore this, yet you consistenly refuse to acknowledge it.

You are free to have your opinion, but quit trying to pass your opinion as fact by insulting those who disagree with you and have a completely valid point.

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Splitquick
01.10.2012 , 03:35 PM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by PepinoCantador View Post
The worst part about this whole argument is that the character in question isn't even there. People actually have the personal belief that a tertiary, cpu controlled bot that didn't contribute in any way to the flashpoint or operation should be entitled to gear over a living person who IS contributing.

Frightening and disappointing thought, to say the least.
This. This. This.

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Vydor_HC
01.10.2012 , 03:35 PM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by laparkuh View Post
What's funny is I'm sure half the people saying "I NEED FOR COMPANION" would ragequit if someone took their "main toons" upgrade...It's just playing selfishly. In single player games it's ok to "me me me" but since you can't solo the flashpoint...stop being an *** and share. =D
You shouldn't project your behavior onto others. The folks I see making the companion is your character argument also are aware that needing effects them as well, most actually seem to be willing to do away with the whole Need/Greed/Pass concept all together and let chips fall where they may on rolls.

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WutsInAName
01.10.2012 , 03:37 PM | #209
I would roll need for my companion.

A week ago I would not have but then I learned something.

If an orange peice of gear drops and my compaion can use and you are already in an orange peice of gear YOU DO NOT NEED IT AS MUCH AS MY COMPANION. What you need is to upgrade the mods!!


Heck I will even be rolling on med armor AIM gear for Mako even though she uses cunning. I can just swap out the mods.

Dont hate the player, hate the game (design)

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Barrakudah
01.10.2012 , 03:37 PM | #210
The only three reasons you should/could roll on loot for a companion:

1) Ground rules were established at the start of the flashpoint/heroic stating that rolling for companions is OK.

2) Someone is using a companion for the 3rd/4th group slot as an active participant in the flashpoint/heroic. The players using said companions should be able to roll with the other players permission.

3) No one else wants the loot and you ask if you may take it for your companion. The group as a whole should agree with you taking for companion use.