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I think patch 1.1 is going to force me out :(

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I think patch 1.1 is going to force me out :(

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dirtyv
01.10.2012 , 02:30 PM | #221
Quote: Originally Posted by Guaritorr View Post
I still had that after cross-server queues, I remember names and guilds, and there were still discussions on the battlegroup forums. The only difference is that you didn't keep getting matched against the same premade guild every match because they were the only group queueing on the other side.
I totally agree... open world pvp is around if you want to keep it in the community. Cross server keeps you from having to fight the same (if youre lucky) 50 people over and over. I like variation.

Everyone talks about wow this and wow that but SWG had the best pvp environment atleast when it was young. Open world pvp was it. Bgs added later which was fine too but big open world battles was where it was at. BGs kill community if you really want to get into it, but thats a whole different topic.

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Nyrana
01.10.2012 , 02:32 PM | #222
I have 3 words for you: roll another toon! There are 7 other story arcs out there that are all great and a month from now there will be tons of level 50's for you to PVP against. Plus you can PvP on the lower brackets with another toon and get your fix there if the level 50 group isn't populated enough.

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SWImara
01.10.2012 , 02:40 PM | #223
Quote: Originally Posted by Guaritorr View Post
What if he just wanted to pvp at cap instead of getting ganked?

What if his guild wanted to roll on a PvE server for PvE but he still liked PvP (almost happened to me, but I rolled with RL friends instead of my rift guild)?
I also fall into this gap, but am not crying about it.

Quote: Originally Posted by Guaritorr View Post
Why should he be punished for being on a low pop server when thats where BW recommended he roll?

Why should he be cut off from pvp entirely, assuming Ilum is just as empty as WZ's at 50 on a low pop server?

There are tons of legitimate reasons for him being in that position, maybe it is his fault, but the real issue is that there aren't enough 50's to support WZs on his server, and they're going to punish every one of them by bracketing them off from the rest of the server.
How is he being punished? He is playing on a low pop server, would we see these same complaints about his not finding people LFGing for raids etc? His server will even out, but more importantly why should just this dude be catered to rather than anyone else? What makes his enjoying the game innately more important than those who will be able to enjoy not geting roflstomped by level 50s as they try to enjoy PvP while leveling?

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murkin
01.10.2012 , 02:41 PM | #224
Quote: Originally Posted by StephenReid View Post

you might want to try re-rolling a new character, either on your own server or another server (perhaps a PvP server?). On your own server, you'll be able to PvP all the way from L10 to L49 without any issue,
Are you serious? This is your work around for players who are level 50 and want to PvP? Players who have spent hours/days on a toon that they grinded to max level? You're referring them to re-roll if the level 50 brackets don't pop in a timely fasion?

USE you're head man. It's starting to sound like a bunch of Mythic guys running things over there.
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SWImara
01.10.2012 , 02:43 PM | #225
Quote: Originally Posted by murkin View Post
Are you serious? This is your work around for players who are level 50 and want to PvP? Players who have spent hours/days on a toon that they grinded to max level? You're referring them to re-roll if the level 50 brackets don't pop in a timely fasion?

USE you're head man. It's starting to sound like a bunch of Mythic guys running things over there.
Correction: For players who are 50 and want to PvP lower level folks without access to end game gear.

You could also go to a PvP server and troll around lowbie areas if you really must have access to noobs to farm.

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crazyhorsek
01.10.2012 , 02:44 PM | #226
Where are the notes for 1.1?

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LaVolpex
01.10.2012 , 02:49 PM | #227
cleverly disguised "we want cross server pvp"

honestly if all you do / care about is pvp, then why pick a game wich has mediocre pvp at best?

if the Qs are not popping up means there are no people on EITHER side in wich case i feel for ya but the servers do say the population wich means you specifically chose a lowpop ,

i have nothing against this mind you, other than segregating the population, but id be in favor of making it small server clusters (like 4 servers max per cluster) so people and guilds can actually get to know each other , some of the best pvp days in wow for me where the server only days, where you got to know the good players on both side , and you feared and respected them and they to you , that was awsome
Also:

roll an alt
level it to level 10
??????
pvp all u want

sorry , but i dont think its gonna happen anytime soon , they have bigger gamebreaking stuff on their plate right now that they havent fixed yet and its what they seem to be focusing on patches right now

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Guaritorr
01.10.2012 , 02:57 PM | #228
Quote: Originally Posted by SWImara View Post
I also fall into this gap, but am not crying about it.
That's fine, clearly it's not as big an issue for you as it is for the OP. I don't mind the UI as much as some people do, but that doesn't invalidate their opinion.


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How is he being punished? He is playing on a low pop server, would we see these same complaints about his not finding people LFGing for raids etc?
You're right, the low pop could cause issues finding a group for FPs/raids, but thats not what's being discussed. His issue is that if they hard-bracket the WZ's on his server, he may not ever see a WZ pop. Which completley eliminates an entire feature of the game for him. That in addition to the lack of population causing Ilum to be empty may lead to no pvp at all, which means no pvp gear/valor and an entire form of progression gone. I'd be worried too if I that was looming over my head.

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His server will even out, but more importantly why should just this dude be catered to rather than anyone else? What makes his enjoying the game innately more important than those who will be able to enjoy not geting roflstomped by level 50s as they try to enjoy PvP while leveling?
You have a good point here, he doesn't deserve special consideration over lowbies, but they do at least deserve equal treatment. Like I suggested earlier, perhaps have queues use some magical algorithm that looks at gear/level/position in queue for WZs. That way if there aren't enough 50s to start a match, at least he could still pvp. Yes, possibly, at the expense of a few lowbies enjoyment that particular game, but his enjoyment matters as well (within reason),

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Bollah
01.10.2012 , 02:59 PM | #229
Quote: Originally Posted by murkin View Post
Are you serious? This is your work around for players who are level 50 and want to PvP? Players who have spent hours/days on a toon that they grinded to max level? You're referring them to re-roll if the level 50 brackets don't pop in a timely fasion?

USE you're head man. It's starting to sound like a bunch of Mythic guys running things over there.
It is not his fault that the OP didn't use his head.

A person that solely PvPs rolling on a PvE server. It is good advice for him to reroll on a PvP server to find a more PvP centric crowd.

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Azul-mar
01.10.2012 , 02:59 PM | #230
I really hope they do not add cross server anything. One of the fun things about pvp is building up alliances with other people on your server as well as having rivals you constantly go against. Cross server just leads to nameless faces and people start to care less about how they preform as a group and just focus on themselves.