Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer
×

Playing vs Pre-Mades is frustrating, disrespectful...

STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > PvP
Playing vs Pre-Mades is frustrating, disrespectful...

Mdesade's Avatar


Mdesade
01.10.2012 , 01:17 PM | #41
I have gone into warzones with a premade and also without. I don't mind facing premades when I'm in a pug. It happens. Sometimes we get stomped, sometimes it's close and pugs even win on occasion.
Member of Ascendancy
Writer at End Gamers
Elizabet: 50 Tank Assassin: Canderous Ordo

Sumwun's Avatar


Sumwun
01.10.2012 , 01:17 PM | #42
this thread stinks of MMO jocks.


Premades have a place, and they aren't in an environment where 1-50 is getting mixed together. If you are unable to see that, you may need to lay off the denial. While I tend to think the OP was wacked out on some type of Drama Drug, he makes a point, no matter how dramatic it is presented.
Proud member of
An alternative to massive impersonal guild environments.

cloudxshadowbane's Avatar


cloudxshadowbane
01.10.2012 , 01:17 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Modecrypt View Post
I get off work, drive home, make dinner, have a beer. I log in to the game, have a guild group put together in less than 5 min, and queue warzones until we bored and log off. We don't even have to talk much any more, we just know what needs to be done. It isn't difficult, it isn't done a hundred hours a week.

You are clearly butt hurt and it is pretty comical to watch you thrash about in the forums because you can't find three other people with basic PVP skills to group with.

So, stop channeling all of your pent up *********** frustration into the forums and go find a guild.
/Rinse....


/Repeat




Quote: Originally Posted by cloudxshadowbane View Post
All the posts that say " Join a group yourself", "Join a guild that premades", etc etc


Congratulations, you are officially dumb.|


That is "forcing".
I bet your tone would change if you were "forced" to Raid PVE to get PVP gear.
I bet your tone would change if you were on the receiving end.

A pre-made in PVP should ONLY be looking to fight another pre-made. The whole point is to have organized, AND CHALLENGING pvp. All they have to do is give pre-mades a different que all-together that only pits them against OTHER pre-mades and/or give solo players the OPTION to que against formed groups IF they want to.


That way you are not FORCING solo/pugs to go against pre-mades. AND you are not removing the ability to que as a group (in reverse, FORCING groups to PUG)


Pretty much, if you think solo pvpers should be forced into a BG with pre-mades, you shouldn't be pvping in the first place, and are horribad at it already. If you want to roflstomp some solo players with organization, wait for World PVP

Lazorous's Avatar


Lazorous
01.10.2012 , 01:17 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by cloudxshadowbane View Post
All the posts that say " Join a group yourself", "Join a guild that premades", etc etc


Congratulations, you are officially dumb.|


That is "forcing".
I bet your tone would change if you were "forced" to Raid PVE to get PVP gear.
I bet your tone would change if you were on the receiving end.

A pre-made in PVP should ONLY be looking to fight another pre-made. The whole point is to have organized, AND CHALLENGING pvp. All they have to do is give pre-mades a different que all-together that only pits them against OTHER pre-mades and/or give solo players the OPTION to que against formed groups IF they want to.


That way you are not FORCING solo/pugs to go against pre-mades. AND you are not removing the ability to que as a group (in reverse, FORCING groups to PUG)


Pretty much, if you think solo pvpers should be forced into a BG with pre-mades, you shouldn't be pvping in the first place, and are horribad at it already. If you want to roflstomp some solo players with organization, wait for World PVP
Speaking of dumb, look in the mirror before you write.

There is no FORCING of anything. You have a choice. If you feel you can't deal with a pre-made, guess what? You can exit that warzone with absolutely no penalty. Q up again, easy.

And I have been on the receiving end of Pre-mades plenty of times. This is including since the inception of BG's in WoW. Any intelligent MMO player will understand that is the fact of MMO life. There will always be cases where you are faced with people who group.

Once in a while I also group with 2-3 casual friends. They're not elite pvpers by any stretch. Does that make a premade? Should I then be FORCED into a premade bracket? Hypocrite much?

maradigamer's Avatar


maradigamer
01.10.2012 , 01:19 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Vegathegreat View Post
You clearly DO NOT want to play a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE game
If I didn't want to play with and against other people, I wouldn't pvp, would I? I enjoy playing in a team against another team. I enjoy queuing up and being thrown into a random team against another random team. I do not enjoy finding a guild that pvps, then arranging voip, then arranging times to be online together, then steamrolling poor solo players for hours every day.

However, if premades and solo players were separated, with premade players given a ranking system and some extra rewards for their extra effort, I would do both. I would find a pvp guild and do premades sometimes, and sometimes I would solo queue.

Explain to me how I don't want to play a MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER ONLINE game again?

raelimar's Avatar


raelimar
01.10.2012 , 01:20 PM | #46
This is actually kinda funny. I really don't have a problem with 50 brackets - that seems perfectly fair. But not allowing people to queue with their friends is just stupid.

And frankly, even when they implement 50 brackets, solo queuers are just going to get farmed even worse by the premades. The best "equalizer" right now when you're facing a premade of 4 level 50s is to hope that they get saddled with 4 level 10-20 solo queuers. Bottom line, if you want to PvP competitively in this game, do so as a team. Competitive PvP is not a solo activity.

cloudxshadowbane's Avatar


cloudxshadowbane
01.10.2012 , 01:21 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Lazorous View Post
Speaking of dumb, look in the mirror before you write.

There is no FORCING of anything. You have a choice. If you feel you can't deal with a pre-made, guess what? You can exit that warzone with absolutely no penalty. Q up again, easy.

And I have been on the receiving end of Pre-mades plenty of times. This is including since the inception of BG's in WoW. Any intelligent MMO player will understand that is the fact of MMO life. There will always be cases where you are faced with people who group.

Once in a while I also group with 2-3 casual friends. They're not elite pvpers by any stretch. Does that make a premade? Should I then be FORCED into a premade bracket? Hypocrite much?
Ahh what it means to be young.

Nothing in that statement even made sense or made anything I say turn me into a Hypocrite.
But in light of you inability to read correctly, I will bite for simple amusement.

Is anyone forcing you to PVP in a group? with those 3 friends?

PUG pvp is just as much a part of every mmo as pre-made. If you want to pre-made. Go to world PVP. Something that can be avoided easily. Dailies require both.

/Rinse
/Repeat what you quoted from me

Frederickvc's Avatar


Frederickvc
01.10.2012 , 01:22 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Vant View Post
Really? I mean, really?? Get a group together or join a guild that does PvP.


And actually, I need to edit you a bit here.

Definition - member of a pre-made group: A person who has superior organizational skills, usually with friends he knows in real life and enjoys some extra time with them on mumble. They like to hook up and have some drinks on the weekends at least 3-4 times a year. They are pals. They don't get frustrated, because due to their ability to coordinate and fight as a team, they win fights.

There, I fixed that for you.
i go drinking each weekend with my friends, and play swtor with them
so if we group up we are no (semi)premade ?!

Kengaro's Avatar


Kengaro
01.10.2012 , 01:23 PM | #49
If you re lvl 50 and can't even get a few players to play with you, you have to hope that there actually exists players on your team that can at least a little bit socialize and make a group

It's not forceing - you can play alone can you? you can also win in a pug vs a premade, at least i can (sometimes....)

Modecrypt's Avatar


Modecrypt
01.10.2012 , 01:24 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by cloudxshadowbane View Post
Ahh what it means to be young.

Nothing in that statement even made sense or made anything I say turn me into a Hypocrite.
But in light of you inability to read correctly, I will bite for simple amusement.

Is anyone forcing you to PVP in a group? with those 3 friends?

PUG pvp is just as much a part of every mmo as pre-made. If you want to pre-made. Go to world PVP. Something that can be avoided easily. Dailies require both.

/Rinse
/Repeat what you quoted from me
Nothing is forcing you to stay in the WZ vs a premade. Every MMO with PVP has always given an advantage to coordination and teamwork. Premades stomp pugs in every game.

This won't change and I'm sorry but you're going to get rolled until you join a guild that is half-way organized.