Playing vs Pre-Mades is frustrating, disrespectful...

Some poster mentioned pre made 8 man. How would that even work? If I queued 8 Battlemasters together, we're almost as likely to face each other as working together, and it's probably a bad idea to queue together since 4 of us can almost surely assure victory against any opposition, but if we draw each other clearly only half of us can win. No, if you got an 8 people death squad you'd try to queue them in a staggered way to minimize the chance they face each other because you don't need 8 Battlemasters to win the average WZ.

You don't need to join a guild to find people who play well. First, getting high medal counts gets you noticed, and if you know what you're doing you can get high medal counts even in a losing effort. Take note of people who seems to know what they're doing. For example, the guy who healed 350K on your team is probably a good player. If you're completely left alone and open in Huttball, try jumping in place and most people, if they see you, usually realize that means 'I'm open'. Most of PvP has a relatively simple optimize strategy that does not require communication. For example if you see 2 guys heading to attack a far turret it's usually a good idea to follow them since you've to assume a far turret is usually defended by 2 guys, and defender has an advantage (their reinforcement get their sooner). You don't need vent or even type to do this. Just follow them because most likely those 2 guys will need the help.

This is not a single player game. Just because you play it that way doesn't mean others need to play it YOUR way.

You joined an MMO and you whine about other people who join a group for a coordinated warzone. Are you even listening to how ridiculous that is?

not rlly, well if the other team has good players - yes, if it's just a bunch of geared 50's you can still win with a pug

At that point I just go for kills, at least when I'm on my assassin. I cannot possibly carry the team with him, maybe that will change with more gear, idk.

When I'm on my scoundrel healer, I feel as long as there's 1 or 2 competent DPS on my team we have a chance.

Regardless, I still do not get a real sense of competitive PvP in this game. There needs to be some type of premade vs. premade game type.

I think premades won't be as big of an issue once the 50 bracket is implemented.

You have to understand that the main reason that premades win games right now is because they get 4 level 50's into the game guaranteed, not even counting the chance that the other 4 players on their team could also be level 50. With the 50 bracket we'll see how they do.

Personally, fighting premades in pugs is one of the most fun things in the game for me. Sure sometimes it's a total stomp but other times the pug is able to pull off a win and then you get to call them bad in chat, which for me is like sex.

All the posts that say " Join a group yourself", "Join a guild that premades", etc etc


Congratulations, you are officially dumb.|


That is "forcing".
I bet your tone would change if you were "forced" to Raid PVE to get PVP gear.
I bet your tone would change if you were on the receiving end.

A pre-made in PVP should ONLY be looking to fight another pre-made. The whole point is to have organized, AND CHALLENGING pvp. All they have to do is give pre-mades a different que all-together that only pits them against OTHER pre-mades and/or give solo players the OPTION to que against formed groups IF they want to.


That way you are not FORCING solo/pugs to go against pre-mades. AND you are not removing the ability to que as a group (in reverse, FORCING groups to PUG)


Pretty much, if you think solo pvpers should be forced into a BG with pre-mades, you shouldn't be pvping in the first place, and are horribad at it already. If you want to roflstomp some solo players with organization, wait for World PVP

you don't have to play warzones if you don't want to? you could also just wait til the lvl 50 brackets?

Pretty much. While being level 50 is somewhat overrated, if your team starts with 4 level 50s, it still gives you a considerable edge when the enemy side might not have 4 level 50s total. Yes there are always a couple of death squads of level 50 Battlemasters that will crush any 4 random level 50s but death squads are not very common, or they wouldn't be death squads. Or, rather, in that case it'd be just as likely you end up on the side of the death squad as opposed to against if the death squad is really that common.

I get off work, drive home, make dinner, have a beer. I log in to the game, have a guild group put together in less than 5 min, and queue warzones until we bored and log off. We don't even have to talk much any more, we just know what needs to be done. It isn't difficult, it isn't done a hundred hours a week.

You are clearly butt hurt and it is pretty comical to watch you thrash about in the forums because you can't find three other people with basic PVP skills to group with.

So, stop channeling all of your pent up *********** frustration into the forums and go find a guild.

A. I am 50
b. That made no sense in light of anything I said.
c. Pre-mades don't have to play WZs either.


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