Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer
×

Same Sex Romances!


Darth_Syphilis's Avatar


Darth_Syphilis
01.10.2012 , 12:12 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Rezelius View Post
Pretty much this. Letting your children play a game where you can cut off someones head and deliver it to their spouse is perfectly ok, but seeing 2 people of the same sex being in a relationship is so horrendously wrong? Get your priorities in check people.
So you are equating the two -- nice.

Wittand's Avatar


Wittand
01.10.2012 , 12:12 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Syphilis View Post
The same old "Agree with us or you are a bigot" argument. Way to turn it nasty so quickly.
Well if someone would care to give not bigoted reasons for to continue to exclude SGRAs while OGRAs remain in game that response would not come up so fast would it ?

pesky's Avatar


pesky
01.10.2012 , 12:14 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Syphilis View Post
The same old "Agree with us or you are a bigot" argument. Way to turn it nasty so quickly.
Believing that your method of doing things is right and alternatives are wrong and that outside parties should cater soley to your persuasion is pretty much the definition of intolerance. Would you be okay if only homosexual relationships were offered? I'm guessing no, so yes... that would make one a hypocrite at best a bigot at worst. Please explain it to me in simple terms if I am misunderstanding the reason you think specific people's way of life should be banned from a game.

pesky's Avatar


pesky
01.10.2012 , 12:26 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Syphilis View Post
So you are equating the two -- nice.
I'm going to tell you a story. One day a man ran across a busy street, pushed an old lady over. Completed a major merger at work, went home and beat up his kid before going out to dinner with his wife and giving her a Million dollar diamond ring.

My problem is that to focus on same sex relationships is like reading that story and saying, "OMG! He jaywalked!!! That is UNACCEPTABLE!!"

I believe we are looking at the statement saying that same sex relationships need to be kept out of the game (dramatically stated) "For the Children!!!!" That is bull in a game that is clearly not marketed to children, and offers content FAR more questionable again than in game story flirtation and consenting adult relationships between members of the same sex. So yes, that is a fairly reasonable response to the poster that brought up the argument in the first place.

Kliever's Avatar


Kliever
01.10.2012 , 12:37 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Syphilis View Post
Not needed, nor does it really fit within the Star Wars universe. Has never been a factor in any of the movies. Not even in any expanded universe stuff that I have read.
Exactly!!! Yet most of these people are too selfish to realise how difficult it would be to put it in the story without making it another DA2 where every character is a bland bisexual cardboard cut out. More importantly. If you think Lore wise, The empire would probably despise it like they despise aliens. The original star wars lore didnt have same sex relations. Get over it
Offer one hand, but always keep the other armed

pesky's Avatar


pesky
01.10.2012 , 12:38 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Lividcalm View Post
Agreed. It's pathetic enough that the forums are in an uproar about same sex relationships, or lack thereof. Saddens me that a hot button topic in a STAR WARS game is homoerotica.

There are plenty of dating sites for you lonely folks out there. Just saying.
The issue is choice not homoerotica. The easy question to ask yourself is if the ONLY option was same sex relationships would you have a problem with it? If so its hard to defend a position that only heterosexual relationships are kosher. It also has nothing to do with being lonely. My fiance and I play this game together, both of us play lightside characters and both of us have fun in playing someone other than ourselves and seeing the relationships that unfold based on the choices we make.

In Dragon Age 2, which was a game with a lot of flaws, there was a great story moment when you have the option of turning down Anders when he makes a pass at your male character. This led to a moment of great storytelling where I felt awkward with the character. My point being that it made me feel connected to my decisions and my characters.

I am a straight man arguing for the inclusion of these options because it opens up story arcs that can be very emotional and interesting. Also, I believe that only including one option cheapens the illusion of choice in the game. Not including the option in my opinion is (beyond any issues of potential homophobia or bigotry) simply bad storytelling as it ignores the opportunity to tell a great story and that is where I am most deeply disappointed in Bioware.

Nexxa's Avatar


Nexxa
01.10.2012 , 12:39 PM | #17
I'm waiting patiently but have by no means forgotten bioware's promise to include it. Yes... they do intend to add same-gender romance/flirt options. If you don't like it, don't partake. If that still isn't enough for you... then you're wanting to control what other players, paying for their subs with their money, have access to: shame on you.

And about the kids playing thing... if you're so terrified your kid will grow up outside your ideal scenario for their future because of one little fade to black scene in an MMO saturared with dark themes then... well... it's not my place to say but good luck.
"Here's a free hamburger! Enjoy yourself." "You're being greedy! I want fries too!" Sounds silly doesn't it?

OzmarTOR's Avatar


OzmarTOR
01.10.2012 , 12:44 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by kavrnathythebold View Post
We have it in Mass Effect. We have it in Dragon Age. Why not SWTOR?

My Twi'lek Jedi Sentinel should be able to chat up Kira Carsen and be in love.

Will you get dark side points for it?

-Ozmar the Curious
I has no signature! Alas!

pesky's Avatar


pesky
01.10.2012 , 12:45 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Kliever View Post
Exactly!!! Yet most of these people are too selfish to realise how difficult it would be to put it in the story without making it another DA2 where every character is a bland bisexual cardboard cut out. More importantly. If you think Lore wise, The empire would probably despise it like they despise aliens. The original star wars lore didnt have same sex relations. Get over it

But didn't you just tell a great story?

What if same sex relationships were demonized in the empire, wouldn't that make a companion character revealing to you that they were indeed homosexually oriented that much more meaningful? Wouldn't your reaction in either choosing to out your character and lead to his or her shame and or imprisonment or execution make for a powerful moment in storytelling? Wouldn't it make the choose to engage in a relationship that defies the conventions of the Empire or Republic that much more meaingful? Wouldn't that make you feel something which is essentially what this game is about?

Bioware has more or less created the early lore of star wars so to say that a homosexual story hasn't been told yet equates to meaning that one can't be told or that it must mean homosexuals don't exist would mean we can't have any expansions with new races, ideas, or lightsaber colors (and wouldn't that get the nerds twitching).

Parali's Avatar


Parali
01.10.2012 , 12:48 PM | #20
Greetings everyone!

Same gender romances with companion characters will be a post-launch feature.

Because this is a subject that usually turns into an off-topic debate on a volatile issue, we will be closing this thread. Here is the official statement on romance options:

Quote:
Due to the design constraints of a fully voiced MMO of this scale and size, many choices had to be made as to the launch and post-launch feature set. Same gender romances with companion characters in Star Wars: The Old Republic will be a post-launch feature. Because The Old Republic is an MMO, the game will live on through content expansions which allow us to include content and features that could not be included at launch, including the addition of more companion characters who will have additional romance options.
Thank you for your cooperation.