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Thanx for makjng a GODCLASS

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Thanx for makjng a GODCLASS

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Desgarden
01.10.2012 , 08:25 AM | #31
What I do dislike about stealth classes in this game is that it is exaclty like in bloody WoW: if you screw up, you have a "oh ****" button alas in improved version: it even doesn't matter where you vanish because your stealth level and speed is increased nor can it be countered by dots.

Quite frankly: if you are such an idiot and attack either the wrong target or at the wrong time then you should pay the bill like everyone else does.

And with or without stims: killing someone in a "stunlock" is pretty idiotic game design. Imagine someone hits 50 and enters a WZ where full-geared stealthers are fighting. The guy gets ganked until kindgom comes without even the chance of retaliation


Quote: Originally Posted by cloudxshadowbane View Post
he is just confusing all stealthers with op/scounds. Stealth itself is the most underpowered I have seen stealth in any MMO I have played in the past 10 years.
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Weird, my scoundrel is never detected before I get to my victim. Oh I beg your pardon, I don't do...

1. dance in front of my target before I attack it

2. run through several teammembers LoS to get to my target

I attack from behind. Maybe, just maybe, this might be the difference why I am never spotted
Sith happens!

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Lucinn
01.10.2012 , 08:27 AM | #32
Yep ty for making god class. The Sorc/sage ty bw for the true god class the one's that can heal and never run out of force. The fastest toon in the game with a knock back root. The one's that can bubble. The ones that do 400k healing and 200k damage in the same game. I know there is more but common guys this is the real god class.

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Starhawk
01.10.2012 , 08:32 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by Iseldiera View Post

the "toxic scan" ability, which the op class gets, removes 2 negative effects from you.

toxic scan + vanish = move away from the fight like a boss.
NEWSFLASH

toxic scan only removes tech dots and since most people who complain are force users its still a valid response.

A commando/mercenary if played well can chase away scoundrels/ops pretty easily. Vanguards/powertechs again played well can survive againts them just fine.

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Servocrowatian
01.10.2012 , 08:34 AM | #34
ITT: Posterior-pained, entitled, glow-stick wielding individuals who feel enraged when they're thoroughly worked over by a sneaky gentleman with a fancy hat.

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Dravinian
01.10.2012 , 08:35 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by caultonpos View Post
The stealthies have no grapple, no pull, nothing to close the distance.

Sure so they can escape and they are squishy, quit your crying and stick a dot on them.
You know that doesn't work right?

It is just that you are posting it up on the forum like it does and it kinda marks you out a bit.

I posted that I DoT all stealthers constantly, as a Sage it is easy we have an instant dot that refreshes very quickly, I dot everyone, cause I can't tell who can stealth and who can't quickly enough to bother checking.

People still stealth.

DoT doesn't stop it, they have abilities to remove DoTs as/before they stealth.

So please stop going around giving out misleading information as if you know what you are talking about, when clearly you don't have a clue.

Whether the OP is right or wrong is a subjective question, but giving out information that is incorrect isn't going to prove him wrong.

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Glixx
01.10.2012 , 08:35 AM | #36
I don't know about Ops/Smugglers, but as an Assassin, putting a dot on me most likely won't stop me from Force Cloak(Vanish) successfully. Any good Assassin is going to use Force Shroud(Cloak of Shadows) before Force Cloak. This drops all negative effects and makes you immune to them for 3s. Force Shroud -> Force Cloak -> Force Speed. I'm out of combat, stealthed and 50m away.

Now, Force Shroud is 45s-1m CD depending on talents. Force Cloak is 2-3m CD depending on talents. Force Speed is 20-30s depending on talents. The talents for these are spread in different trees, so you can have the Force Shroud and Speed talents, but not the Cloak at the same time I believe.

Given the cooldowns, I can basically only use this once per open world fight or about the same amount of times I can use my CC breaker skill. It's not overpowered, you just have to learn to anticipate it and deal with it. If the person combat stealths, that means you're out of combat too and can just as easily hit your recovery skill or run off.

One point of interest about the dots in Open World PvP is Force Shroud does not cover your companion. The number of times I've been knocked out of my escape method because my pet had a dot or decided to engage one last time is annoying.

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BDutch
01.10.2012 , 08:35 AM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Starhawk View Post
NEWSFLASH

toxic scan only removes tech dots and since most people who complain are force users its still a valid response.
This is correct, though the immunity 1min CD will remove all dots.

Quote: Originally Posted by Starhawk View Post
A commando/mercenary if played well can chase away scoundrels/ops pretty easily. Vanguards/powertechs again played well can survive againts them just fine.
This is also true, see my sig.
Originally Posted by Puja
The sentinel PVP armor is PINK and POOP colored with golden ******* and a clown helmet my brain is not able to make any sense out of. Then some sort of giant bug from the Jetsons has attached itself to the left shoulder.

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DuceHason
01.10.2012 , 08:36 AM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Servocrowatian View Post
ITT: Posterior-pained, entitled, glow-stick wielding individuals who feel enraged when they're thoroughly worked over by a sneaky gentleman with a fancy hat.
Well said And I don't even play a stealther.
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Whatevr
01.10.2012 , 08:37 AM | #39
He must have raged when I was low on hp, force cloaked, and came back with a spike+assassinate finisher.

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BDutch
01.10.2012 , 08:39 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by Glixx View Post
One point of interest about the dots in Open World PvP is Force Shroud does not cover your companion. The number of times I've been knocked out of my escape method because my pet had a dot or decided to engage one last time is annoying.
That is an incredibly useful tip for world PvP.
Originally Posted by Puja
The sentinel PVP armor is PINK and POOP colored with golden ******* and a clown helmet my brain is not able to make any sense out of. Then some sort of giant bug from the Jetsons has attached itself to the left shoulder.