Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

The Ac itself both contains Tank/DPS or Healer/DPS except 2 that are pure DPS why do you feel that you should be able to do both at the same time?

But you can most of the time go without a tank aswell just yesterday i did Taral V on an Alt with 3 dps and a healer did all bosses except the bonus boss .

Was challenging but really doable aslong as some of the dps could Offheal on the bigger pulls/bosses

Highest speeders cost 1,500,000 credits. 60k is chump change compared to that.

I read it but just dont agree.

Its a well thought out post and your reasons are solid

But i would just much prefer flexibility over a rigid set structure

It just makes running a guild a whole lot easier if people can switch roles out.

Im not saying your wrong but i think your in a small minority of people who dont think its good for the game

if a game like diablo 2 added ways to respec..it should

1. be free
2. have dual spec

just saying 1 miss click or w/e cuz of a lag spike or w/e reason happens..its a good system. Just because wow or some other game did it first (no game that comes out now is 100% original) doesn't mean you have to jump on the hate train

Did you just use the people can misclick and click a talent that they didnt want and therefor we need dual specc?
What happens if they it happens on both speccs then

Why? You can already respec.

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Feel free to speak again when you rejoin us in reality.

Here is my problem:

First of all, I play a 50 vanguard Grammaton (valor 49 atm) and I have him set as a pve tank and I like the build I'm using for him.

After using my pve build in pvp for a while, I felt like changing it up and experimenting with other combinations of talents to suit my play style and see what a vanguard is capable of with the other trees. I ended up getting to the 99.8k credit cap just playing with the class finding out as much as i could about each tree and how it can be applied in pvp.

I finally settled on the fact that there are 2 different builds that I would like to play regularly. One of them is for pve and the other is for pvp. I currently do hard modes and will soon be raiding during the week and would like to be able to swap to a pvp build when I'm not tanking for my guild.

The thought of having to spend almost 100k each time i want to pvp (or go back to pve tanking) is ridiculous to me. It hinders my overall experience of the game. I want to be able to enjoy every aspect of the game that interests me without having to make some scratch on the side to respec everyday.

What an arrogant comment...

So I should pick a spec and stick with it? Mkay... If I pick Tank spec, I can do Flashpoints but no Raids because only one Tank is needed per Raid and every other tank is a lost spot.
Okay then I pick DD.. no wait then I can't do Flashpoints anymore because we don't have enough tanks!

Just because you don't like dual spec or it's working for you with only one spec doesn't mean other people need it. Forget it. All people need it or we get a tank and healer shortage soon.

Btw if you want to let SWToR stay different as other MMOs doesn't mean it should not "copy" the GOOD things of other MMOs. Copying good parts of MMOs is what every good / successfull MMO did, WoW did nothing else back then and is still copying from other new MMOs. If SWToR wants to survive it has to evolve, inventing new stuff and also implementing stuff that works in other MMOs.

Next time think more about it before you post crap like that.

This happens with or without dual spec. This is an issue with respec in general. Dual spec does nothing but make it EASIER for people to fill roles that they WANT to fill. If they dont want to fill it, they dont have to.

You cannot use companions in warzones
You cannot use companions in flashpoints (assuming full group)
You cannot use companions in Operations
You (soon to come)cannot use companions on Ilum.

Using a companion to fill a VITAL group role in GROUP content is not viable. Trying having a companion tank a heroic 4 with pugs, or go the extra mile and have a companion tank (or heal)all the heroic mode flashpoints. The majority of the community is NOT asking for respecs so they can solo, but so they can be flexible to help their guilds raid composition, or pvp and raid. Soloing as a tank or healer (at 50, at least, once you have all your companions) is NOT an issue. Stop using this as a crutch to your argument.

It works great, except that you have 3/7/15 other people waiting for you while you do it, for no reason other than to waste time. The entire reason wow added dual specs is to reduce downtime for groups, because it's fun to play the game...it's NOT fun waiting to play it.

Have you even gotten to 50?

Healers primarily stack their primary stat, then power and alacrity.

Dps primarily stack their primary stat, then power, and then any combination of crit/surge/alacrity (depending on class/spec)

Tanks primarily stack endurance, then their primary stat (which basicall comes with the endurance anyway), then defense, shield rating, absorb rating, and power/crit.

Have you noticed how the stats that are best for any one role are almost always worst for the others? (with the exception of power).

You seem to be focusing on the cost, which most people arent really worried about. No one is saying dual spec should be free (or cheap). The problem with forcing someone to run back to the fleet and respec is that this forces the REST OF THE PARTY (3/7/15 people) to sit and twiddle their thumbs while they do it.

Dual spec doesnt change the gameplay or make it easier. Bosses dont have less health, do less damage, or die quicker just because dual spec is added to the game. The majority of the game content is built around groups. If you can't build a group, you can't do the content. The purpose of dual spec is to reduce time spent SEARCHING for a balanced group. It has nothing to do with how good, bad, or lazy the players are.

Was it a hard mode flashpoint? Was it a level 50 flashpoint? Or was it a flashpoint meant for 2 people (black talon) that some classes can solo at level? Companions do NOT make viable tanks in level 50 group content (other than the occasional heroic 2 quest)

You're also refusing to think about the raiding community, or the pvp community when making this statement. People dont want dual spec to make themselves more powerful, they want it to make themselves more FLEXIBLE. This means if your main tank can't raid tonight, or someone gets sick, or has to work, or has finals tomorrow, or any number of other things, the 15 other raid members aren't sitting around unable to finish the content. The #2 tank becomes the main tank, The dps with the best tank gear/spec swaps to be the off tank, you fill in a dps spot, and go. The alternative requires spending close to half a million credits just to be able to zone in to the operation and have a CHANCE of success.

On top of that, how you can POSSIBLY think that having EVERYONE spend less time looking for a group for EVERYTHING in the game is a bad thing. Do you enjoy waiting for a group to form?

I've read almost all of these, and every single one of the "anti Dual spec" threads seems to focus on the solo play (where it is not needed), or on the cost of it (which we are not disputing). It's not needed for solo play, it's needed to lessen downtime experienced when trying to form a group for GROUP content.

Adding dual spec is not going to magically make people be meaner to you, or make bosses die faster, make players lose 20 IQ points and become morons (at least, no more than they already are)...it hurts NO ONE, and benefits EVERYONE that does GROUP content (which, seeing how this is a Massively MULTIPLAYER online game, SHOULD be everyone).