Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

Actually, you haven't. You keep saying you have, but you never actually DO.

Typical strawman argument. This has nothing to do with the current topic. No one in this thread (or on these forums, most likely) is asking for instant travel anywhere. Once again you fail to point out how dual spec would be a detriment to the game, and then run around pointing "BUT IF WE DID THIS COMPLETELY UNRELATED THING, IT WOULD BE STUPID"

Lol.... based on Bioware's track record, you'd be lucky to have it in 1-2 YEARS. They move slow as hell on things and don't talk about it.

I'm going to give you a minute to let the hypocracy of what you just said sink in.

The entitled ones like yourself demand the game to have features are not in, and weren't intended.

Go figure.

It has everything to do with the current topic. You argue for convenience.

Answer it.

Apparently you're not aware of what a straw-man argument is. Too bad.


Fact: There is no valid, objective argument against Dual spec.

Yes, there is. The respec fees are a excellent credit sink which help keeps the economy in check. There is a complete correlation in WoW as the main example of Dual Spec's being implemented and the buying power of Gold going down. Once people got their PvP and PvE specs popped into place properly, they never had to pay to respec until a patch came out. Prior to Dual Specs, the constant respecing helped keep inflation at bay. There you go, valid argument against Dual Spec, have a nice day.

Not really. You do realize the majority of level 50 activities take place on ONE planet, and the fleeet, right? travel is not an issue.

I'm not arguing for convience just for the sake of convenience. I'm asking for a feature that has become a staple of current MMORPGS, that creates a VERY noticable increase in the playability of ALL aspects of group play. If you dont want to use it for some insane reason, you dont have to, but including it causes no inconvenience to you or anyone else that is against it.

Which goes back to my post about self entitlement. I'm asking for something that would let ME (and let's be realistic, at least 90% of the playerbase) enjoy the game more, and not affect YOUR gameplay at all. You're asking for something that will, for NO logical reason, restrict everyone's gameplay, waste people's time needlessly (you know, the 15 other people that are waiting for you to respec, get your keybinds reset and such), and generally cause absolutely NO good.

Nope, this is just flat-out wrong.

It's not an effective money sink at all. It's an incredibly minor one, since people stop using Respec when the cost gets to a significant level. It can barely be called a money sink in the first place.

Futhermore, Dual spec does not stop people from respecing. The type of people that want Dual spec use more than two specs. So Respecing will continue to be the minor money sink that it is.... Dual spec won't change that.


Now, if you let people have 5 specs like Rift does, that might have an effect... oh wait, it didn't.

You're dramatically oversimplifying this, because there were still TONS of respecs to be had.

As an example, from a Paladin perspective in wow:

Retribution pve
Retribution pvp
Protection PvE
Holy PvE (single target, Word of glory spec)
Holy PvE (AoE focused, Light of Dawn spec)
Holy PvP
Ghetto Protection pvp

Clearly dual spec covers ALL POSSIBLE avenues right?

We have plenty of Credit sinks in the game already, and honestly crafting can be an insane sink in and of itself, not counting the MULTIPLE 1.5 million credit speeders.

Whoever said the respec cost resets ever week is lying, or it's bugged. I respec'd my bounty hunter to heal Mandalorian raiders when i was in my 30s, and then respec'd back to finish leveling. When i hit level 50, and wanted to finalize my raiding spec (healing), i had a 90k respec fee, after respeccing ONLY twice, and NOT having yet respec'd at 50.

I'm still waiting to hear how adding dual specs will "ruin the game"

Except its not. If costs associated with respecing are too high, people just won't do it. There are tons of ways to implement credit sinks. If you're pinning your hat on just one, its going to be of limited (at best) effectiveness.