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Caelrie
01.09.2012 , 04:54 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by RachelAnne View Post
Its not. Just because you didnt play vanilla, doesnt mean it was not like that. The community at vanilla was ace, server had blacklistīs where ninja looters, rude kids etc. were listed.
I was in WoW since the beta. All the jerks got groups all they wanted, just like the rest of us. This "people will blacklist you" thing is a lie. SWTOR's situation is the proof. Good job completely ignoring that point, BTW. I understand, since it really undercuts your argument pretty harshly.

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01.09.2012 , 04:58 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by RachelAnne View Post
Its not. Just because you didnt play vanilla, doesnt mean it was not like that. The community at vanilla was ace, server had blacklistīs where ninja looters, rude kids etc. were listed.
You're just fooling yourself.

Even the worst of the worst scumbags kept playing and kept getting groups and guilds. The belief that you actually had an impact on their game by shunning them border's on delusional.

EQ had an even tighter knit community, since you had to group to even level, and there was no instancing (until much later). There were worse behaviors you could do in that game, since you could really kill steal, camp jump, train, etc.

Shunning didn't actually work there either. You'd find scumbags in the top end guilds on the server, and the guild leaders didn't care.

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01.09.2012 , 04:58 PM | #33
I've LFG'd about 4 times, and as a healer, and 3 of those times I was greeted with a party invite instantly. So I haven't experienced much waiting except for the time until everyone gets to the mission start. That may be because I'm a healer, but so far on Coruscant and Tython I've found it extremely easy to get a group going with randoms..
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TumblerSW
01.09.2012 , 05:01 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Caelrie View Post
If your statement were true, SWTOR wouldn't be having the bad behavior problem in groups. But it does, so your statement is obviously false.
Perhaps if more people wanted to spend the time doing these missions you would not be running into so many unpleasant people?

I think you're expecting too much if you want people to choose greed/pass on loot when it's going to be 30min to an hour before they get into another mission.

Make it an easy and pleasant experience to do these missions and you'll likely find people a lot more willing to pass on loot they don't really need. But you stick an hour between missions and you think they're going to pass on ANYTHING!? Wake up.

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01.09.2012 , 05:04 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Dark_loki View Post
So one thing i notice on the forum is an argument of over LFG. Both sides of this argument the vocal minority for each group seem to only see things in black and white. However, i have noticed a few people that actual do seem to be willing to compromise.

I personally like having a feeling of a community and be able to recognize people i see throughout the worlds. I do believe a cross server LFG would kill this and you might as well take away our names and just give us numbers instead.

But for those who want an LFG, why not do it this way. Create a system that let's us see who currently has an active flash-point that we want to do and make it easy to send them invites. That would simplify it a lot. Make it so there is no instant teleportation, not that it takes that long to get to the flash points anyways. Between fast travel, and every planet has a shuttle that will take you there right away. And absolutely no cross server.

Wouldn't both sides be happier this way?
The reason I left WoW was because of the lfd / lfg tool , I really wouldn't mind it in this game as long as the community doesn't get ruined .
Nothing left to say , except that it has been fun ! Thanks for the great times people .

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TumblerSW
01.09.2012 , 05:06 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Anderron View Post
I've LFG'd about 4 times, and as a healer, and 3 of those times I was greeted with a party invite instantly. So I haven't experienced much waiting except for the time until everyone gets to the mission start. That may be because I'm a healer, but so far on Coruscant and Tython I've found it extremely easy to get a group going with randoms..
There are never enough healers or tanks. Those classes seem to be the least popular in the game so it makes it hard to run missions that are built around a healer and a tank and 2 other players.

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Anderron
01.09.2012 , 05:07 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by powergirl View Post
The reason I left WoW was because of the lfd / lfg tool , I really wouldn't mind it in this game as long as the community doesn't get ruined .
I didn't really play WoW...How was the community ruined? This isn't a challenge to your claim, just curious as to what happened..
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TumblerSW
01.09.2012 , 05:17 PM | #38
Quote: Originally Posted by Anderron View Post
I didn't really play WoW...How was the community ruined? This isn't a challenge to your claim, just curious as to what happened..
I'm curious about this as well. I'm guessing that before these tools the only people who ran these missions were people willing to invest the time to meet other players and wait around as long as it took to get a group going. A minority of players for sure.

You add tools that make it easy to get into one of these and people don't really care who is in their group and try to take all loot rather than passing on loot that is useful to others.

If you don't want to use the tool you'll find no one to group with as all the people who used to diligently wait for groups to form will now just use the tool because in the end even they don't want to wait around when they can be playing.

So now you take the easy road and group with randoms because you can get into missions and earn loot faster but the people you play with are trying to take everything rather than working as a group and making sure certain loot goes to certain players.

Am I right?

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Caelrie
01.09.2012 , 05:23 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by TumblerSW View Post
So now you take the easy road and group with randoms because you can get into missions and earn loot faster but the people you play with are trying to take everything rather than working as a group and making sure certain loot goes to certain players.

Am I right?
Not really since that's what's happening in SWTOR right now, a game without any functional LFD tool.

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genpion
01.09.2012 , 05:38 PM | #40
I am for more comfort and play time.
I am for less time waiting and running. I want teleporters.

Bioware should provide the necessary.
The players should decide what to use.
This is good democracy that does not fail like in reality.

Not tools ruin a game but the players and the game mechanics.
If looting is a problem, why not implementing a reward mechanism where nobody is discriminated or deceived.
Why not giving every player a piece of usable loot ?
Why a stupid random loot system ? We are not playing with cards or dices anymore.
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