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SW:TOR a average game!


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Andryah
01.09.2012 , 03:01 PM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by Lankybrit View Post
OP: Not really a very constructive post at all about what improvements you would suggest, so expect it to be locked very soon.

Cheers.
Yeah, he's /ranting more then anything, not to mention a condescending LOL here and there.

0/10 for this below average review IMO.
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Reecelol
01.09.2012 , 03:04 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Battyone View Post
All MMOs evolve over time, imagine a brand new mmo coming out with 10 raids, hundreds of zones, etc but being horribly broken in some way (let's say for arguments sake bad mechanics/class structure/storyline.) Then you have made 7 years worth of MMO content, but nobody is playing your game because it's pure trash.

In all MMOs the way they make money is subscription retention or micro-transaction monetization. It would be both overwhelming to have 30+ raid bosses at launch, but it would make no financial sense since we both know the way MMO gamers are that there would be groups of people who cracked that content extremely quickly.

Basically, it is in our best interests that a game starts small, has a decent core, and builds on it instead of trying to be "super awesome *****in mmo 9000" and delivering nothing but crap. It's not reasonable to put 7 years of development work into an MMO before launch, nobody would back it financially.

I like what I see so far and look forward to 6 months from now when I can actually give an opinion on how this game is, since the growth/development is more important to me than what it is at launch.

think you missed my point. i was speaking to that guy comparing the new games "starting areas" as some grand achievement. and what i was saying is i would hope they had a bit more content vs a game that came out 7 years ago. in this case, they have. which was my point.
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Andryah
01.09.2012 , 03:04 PM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by iResist View Post
This person has no idea how WoW started.


1) WoW only had 4 total starting zones when it launched, not 8.

2) SWTOR planets are larger than WoW zones, so you can't compare them in size directly.

3) I have had no problem soloing any and all solo quests.

4) The only thing I agree with on the OP's post is the GTN UI being horrible.

5) WoW didn't even have an end game whatsoever when it launched.

6) SWTOR has FARRR more content than what WoW had when it launched.

7) There were plenty of people getting max level when WoW launched in ~3 days, not 3 months.
Spot on. Thank you for taking time to correct him on his many flaws in review.
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Battyone
01.09.2012 , 03:05 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by Reecelol View Post
think you missed my point. i was speaking to that guy comparing the new games "starting areas" as some grand achievement. and what i was saying is i would hope they had a bit more content vs a game that came out 7 years ago. in this case, they have. which was my point.
Oh! Sorry, then carry on. My point is that in Vanilla WoW there were not 8 starting zones. The OP never played Everquest or Vanilla WoW given how he is just spewing false stereotypes the Counterstrike community made fun of me with in 2001.
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Arkerus
01.09.2012 , 03:06 PM | #35
In WoW, except for a few quests, you are just generic hero #487.

The "story" is the same no matter if you play a death knight or mage. You follow the same quest lines as everyone else.

I played WoW for 6-7 years and I thought that was ok but I prefer the way SWTOR does it. If you start a new character you have a totally new story to experience.

If you think WoW wasn't buggy at launch then you are lying and you didn't play WoW at launch. I used to wait 2-3 hours at times. Servers would crash. Quest targets would de-spawn. Mobs wouldn't be where they said they were. Not to mention you could get stuck without a place to go as the game didn't say where to go next.

Oh, and as pointed out above, your analysis of what WoW had is completely wrong.

So...stop lying.
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Reecelol
01.09.2012 , 03:08 PM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
In WoW, except for a few quests, you are just generic hero #487.

The "story" is the same no matter if you play a death knight or mage. You follow the same quest lines as everyone else.

I played WoW for 6-7 years and I thought that was ok but I prefer the way SWTOR does it. If you start a new character you have a totally new story to experience.

If you think WoW wasn't buggy at launch then you are lying and you didn't play WoW at launch. I used to wait 2-3 hours at times. Servers would crash. Quest targets would de-spawn. Mobs wouldn't be where they said they were. Not to mention you could get stuck without a place to go as the game didn't say where to go next.
you mean a totally different story from the guy next to you who made the same class you did?

yeah, so different

now youre just generic bounty hunter #230
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HiddenPalm
01.09.2012 , 03:09 PM | #37
Compare wow to swg not swtor ... personally I prefer to think outside the box, if you want to compare wow to a modern game, why swtor? Compare it to skyrim. If you want to compare SWTOR to an old game, why not Empire Strikes Back on Atari or metroid on nes?

Personally I play ESB on Atari just as much as any modern game like SWTOR, Skyrim, Crysis 2, DCUO, SC2, TWShogun2, and the Witcher 2. I play ESB on Atari like a mad man and I'm pretty ****** .... perhaps the best ESB on Atari player who had ever lived in the South Bronx.

My simple point is .... comparing swtor to wow is so overdone by people who were initially interested in investment and stocks. We're gamers so compare and contrast it to games. Be the black sheep.
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mrache
01.09.2012 , 03:09 PM | #38
the real question is...when will this game be ftp? the monthly fee is not worth it.

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Reecelol
01.09.2012 , 03:10 PM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by HiddenPalm View Post
Compare wow to swg not swtor ... personally I prefer to think outside the box, if you want to compare wow to a modern game, why swtor? Compare it to skyrim. If you want to compare SWTOR to an old game, why not Empire Strikes Back on Atari or metroid on nes?

Personally I play ESB on Atari just as much as any modern game like SWTOR, Skyrim, Crysis 2, DCUO, SC2, TWShogun2, and the Witcher 2. I play ESB on Atari like a mad man and I'm pretty ****** .... perhaps the best ESB on Atari player who had ever lived in the South Bronx.

My simple point is .... comparing swtor to wow is so overdone by people who were initially interested in investment and stocks. We're gamers so compare and contrast it to games. Be the black sheep.
so compare an mmo to a single player console/pc game. i see your logic. very clear sir.


i think more accurate is to compare swtor to skyrim.
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Battyone
01.09.2012 , 03:10 PM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by HiddenPalm View Post
Compare wow to swg not swtor ... personally I prefer to think outside the box, if you want to compare wow to a modern game, why swtor? Compare it to skyrim. If you want to compare SWTOR to an old game, why not Empire Strikes Back on Atari or metroid on nes?

Personally I play ESB on Atari just as much as any modern game like SWTOR, Skyrim, Crysis 2, DCUO, SC2, TWShogun2, and the Witcher 2. I play ESB on Atari like a mad man and I'm pretty ****** .... perhaps the best ESB on Atari player who had ever lived in the South Bronx.

My simple point is .... comparing swtor to wow is so overdone by people who were initially interested in investment and stocks. We're gamers so compare and contrast it to games. Be the black sheep.
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