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Story-based themepark MMO can only fail

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Story-based themepark MMO can only fail

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wikimon
01.08.2012 , 09:49 PM | #21
this is the best post i've read on these forums.

would have wrote something similar once reaching 50 myself, i'm sure

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Riho
01.08.2012 , 09:49 PM | #22
Sorry but most of the threads in this forum on the General Discussion page are just plain comical, fan boys vs. haters. Neither side will win and most of it is just hot air with limited 'suggestions'.

Sorry but if you want the pulse of the game and useful information visit some of the other forums on SWTOR, some people enjoy the game and others do not. The General forums are for the non-subscribers to voice their hate to fill some need to be 'l33t' on the interwebs before they crawl back to whatever 'better' game they decide to play.
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kravechocolate
01.08.2012 , 09:52 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by noctowl View Post
I guess TV shows fail because of all the things the OP mentioned. No advancement until the next season.
A, which has the attribute S, follows logic L
Thus,
B, which also has attribute S, must also follow logic L.

But B doesn't follow logic L!
Well, then A must not follow logic L as well.

Let me put in some things in there and you'll see how silly this is.

A mouse, which is a mammal, lives on average for two years.
Well that can't be! A human being, which is also a mammal, lives for more than two years. Thus, mice can't live on average for two years.

Which is to say, TV shows and MMOs are not nearly similar enough to draw logical conclusions from metaphors. Although they do rhyme...

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Koboldfodder
01.08.2012 , 09:52 PM | #24
It doesn't work on the MMO level. But this game is more of a single player Bioware game than a MMO. I dont think you realize just how many people are fans of Bioware games. I buy every one of them, you are almost always getting a superior product. There are lots of people who have no serious interest in the MMO aspects of this game. They want to play each class and some of them will play the same class different gender.

I will say that this game is inferior to the Mass Effect series in terms of the cinematic qualities but it's better than the Dragon Age series. If you approach the game from the mindset of the single person RPG player, this game can last a long time. These players do not play the game like the MMO hardcore players.

When you look at the game from the prospective of a traditional MMO player, it does not have as much impact. It's a pretty bland MMO and lacks a lot of the basic functions the successful level/raid MMOs have.

This game has attracted a lot single player market. You can question the design of the game, I sure do, from a MMO player's point of view but as a fan of Bioware games I enjoy this game.

There is one big, legitimate question you can ask. Can Bioware keep up the demand for NEW content and still maintain the level of voice overs (16 class voice overs plus all the NPC voice overs) to keep people interested in the game down the road?

There will come a point where the single RPG players have played all the original classes they want to play and will be looking for new stuff. I think at that point the serious MMO gamers will have already left the game, but there still will be a lot of hangers on and that large single player audience.

If they can put out QUALITY expansions or additions or whatever you want to call it in less than a year's time (like SOE, who have mastered the art of marketing a MMO expansion wise) they will be fine.

What is the worse that can happen? People stop playing and cancel their subscription and come back in 7 months or so to check things out. Isn't that how everyone already plays this genre anyways? I know I have about 7 accounts on various MMOs that I keep resubbing and canceling in little chunks to just play for a while. Those games are all still going strong, no reason this game cannot.

That being said....heh, I will probably cancel when my free month is up. I am looking for more of a MMO than a single person RPG with lite MMO stuff to the side.

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Riho
01.08.2012 , 09:53 PM | #25
And back on topic, I'm concerned for the longevity of the game as far as the depth of future questing as well. It seems they set the bar a bit too high having a 'fully voiced' MMO and greatly underestimated some of the player base powering through content(i.e. Spacebar commandos).

We'll see if they can continue with this model or continue to market the casual Single player RPG( rerollers ).
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BeeblesTV
01.08.2012 , 09:54 PM | #26
Roll an alt.

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SlickDevlan
01.08.2012 , 09:54 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by kravechocolate View Post
Ahh, but did you pay a monthly fee for KOTOR 1 and 2 while you were playing them over and over? Let's say the next three years passes (in your words, "couple of years") with no new content.

Do you really feel justified in paying $600 for a game ($60 + 36*15)? Do you think other gamers will bite on that deal?
People seemed more than happy to shell out $15/month for a themepark MMO with little to no story for the last 7 years...

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LilSaihah
01.08.2012 , 10:00 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by SlickDevlan View Post
People seemed more than happy to shell out $15/month for a themepark MMO with little to no story for the last 7 years...
Except that WoW did have a story. The majority of the playerbase just didn't care about it because it wasn't forced into their face by voiced dialogue.

Once you hit 50 and have finished the flashpoints/operations once each, you won't care about the story here either.
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kravechocolate
01.08.2012 , 10:00 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Riho View Post
And back on topic, I'm concerned for the longevity of the game as far as the depth of future questing as well. It seems they set the bar a bit too high having a 'fully voiced' MMO and greatly underestimated some of the player base powering through content(i.e. Spacebar commandos).

We'll see if they can continue with this model or continue to market the casual Single player RPG( rerollers ).
Ha! "Spacebar commandos". Love it!

Although.... for all those general missions that every class must do, I can't deny that sometimes the Spacebar calls to me, the 2nd time around on an alt.

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LilSaihah
01.08.2012 , 10:01 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by kravechocolate View Post
Ha! "Spacebar commandos". Love it!

Although.... for all those general missions that every class must do, I can't deny that sometimes the Spacebar calls to me, the 2nd time around on an alt.
give in to your impatience

unleash the full fury of the spacebar upon your enemies!
The Ebon Hawk
Sarrina | Nazani
Erinya | Tinaria | Laife