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Too many heroic quests


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flunkorg
01.08.2012 , 08:41 PM | #11
...so you want to remove/nerf content?

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Abriael
01.08.2012 , 08:44 PM | #12
Don't like Heroics? Don't do them. There's PLENTY content to go from 1-50 while ignoring heroics and never looking back.

You can't be seriously suggesting for Bioware to tailor the whole game to your soloer tastes ignoring completely those that like a different playstyle, when the content dedicated to yours is already the vast majority.

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imtrick
01.08.2012 , 08:47 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Kazanth View Post
I'm not trying to take content away from other players, my second suggestion in fact lets everyone experience the content in whichever way they want. What's wrong with that?
Just that it would totally trivialize the content. Why get a four-man group together if you can do it with two?

Some content comes with prerequisites. For normal quests, there's a minimum level. For four-mans, you need a group to do them at-level (though I've found they're doable in most cases with a two-man group already -- my gaming buddy and I have done every one up through Alderaan as a duo, though I've done most of them in four-man groups on other characters).

And they can be skipped if you don't like that level of difficulty. What you're asking for is that these heroics be gimped so that you don't have to meet the prerequisites. I don't think they need to be gimped at all, and that you're essentially asking for content other people enjoy to be butchered because you don't like that particular playstyle. Well, there's a ton of content out there that does cater to your playstyle. Don't destroy mine because you're not willing to meet the requirements to do it, or can't hande the difficulty. Just drop them and move on. Wait until you're higher level and solo them. Or, maybe even better, try something different for a change and go do them with a group.
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Schwerpunkt
01.08.2012 , 08:49 PM | #14
I have yet to encounter anything I couldn't solo eventually. I may have to level up a bit but I haven't needed anyones help yet.
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Abrasion
01.08.2012 , 08:56 PM | #15
It doesn't get any better as you hit the level cap. In fact, some of the daily quests to farm commendations are heroic 4, which means if you play at odd hours of the day you're pretty much screwed.

I don't mind group content.. on the contrary, it's great and I enjoy doing it, but when you're farming dailies sometimes you just want to lay low, chill out, and kill some crap mindlessly. Strictly group only content should be Flashpoints, Battlegrounds, and Operations.

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Nitsud_Deus
01.08.2012 , 08:56 PM | #16
I've done a few on my own...certainly a challenge but doable.

I'm not about doing away with content. I think this argument has more to do with the OP being a single player style gamer.

I'm an rpg man myself but this game is an mmo. They tried to balance it and I think instead of making the diehard rpgers happy and the diehard mmoers happy they kind of just left both groups wanting more.

I don't think the game leans one way or the other...I think it kind of lacks in both directions. That isn't to say it is a bad game and that I don't see great potential. Its just not great yet.

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AlistairC
01.08.2012 , 08:57 PM | #17
Theres some planning to it.
Even if I most of the time get a group within 10-20 minutes I start asking for a group at once. If it takes alot of time I keep asking while going at my normal questing. No standing around doing nothing.

The bonus 4s on Nar Shadda and Alderaan are tougher since alot of people seem to skip those lines flat-out.

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Kazanth
01.08.2012 , 08:58 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by imtrick View Post
Just that it would totally trivialize the content. Why get a four-man group together if you can do it with two?

Some content comes with prerequisites. For normal quests, there's a minimum level. For four-mans, you need a group to do them at-level (though I've found they're doable in most cases with a two-man group already -- my gaming buddy and I have done every one up through Alderaan as a duo, though I've done most of them in four-man groups on other characters).

And they can be skipped if you don't like that level of difficulty. What you're asking for is that these heroics be gimped so that you don't have to meet the prerequisites. I don't think they need to be gimped at all, and that you're essentially asking for content other people enjoy to be butchered because you don't like that particular playstyle. Well, there's a ton of content out there that does cater to your playstyle. Don't destroy mine because you're not willing to meet the requirements to do it, or can't hande the difficulty. Just drop them and move on. Or, maybe even better, try something different for a change and go do them with a group.
Just wow at that last sentence. How many times do I have to repeat myself? I've tried to do every single group quest and I actually do enjoy them when I find a group for them, which is like 90% of the time. The other 10% (like with bonus series heroic 4's) finding a group is almost impossible. Please stop trying to paint me as a casual/solo player trying to strip content away from hardcore players, it's childish and it's certainly not necessary. You also have not answered what's wrong with my second suggestion unsurprisingly.
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ErnieVega
01.08.2012 , 09:03 PM | #19
Cant say that i agree with the OP. This is an MMO. The game already takes considerable care to make sure it is solo friendly, without the heroic quests there would be almost no advantage or incentive to group up with friends, or even meet new friends in the community.

I do like the idea of having a toggle between 2 and 4 man heroic difficulty. I think that that would be a fair compromise.
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Derper
01.08.2012 , 09:08 PM | #20
Please BW don't nerf the H4 quests. It took a lot of the joy out of leveling when other MMOs did that