Never seen a valid argument against the LFD

Having no LFG system discourages me greatly to even look for groups, why should I bother? It's such an old and clunky system now to not have a LFG tool.

I use the current Swtor LFG box as a healer, put a LFG message and literally after 8 hours give up.. no one responds.

And people who so desperately want a tool only know how to get a group by spamming general.

I never have any trouble getting groups, and I've never once sat around spamming the general chat. I've never used the current LFG marker, either.

MMOs are social games. Get a guild. Quit trying to turn this into a lobby game just because you want to be anti-social.

I'm in a guild.

I'm 47 (and a tank).

We have 13 people that are 45 or higher. None of them are healers.

No one wants to heal (they say they will at 50 and we start ops, but they don't want to be heal spec while solo - as a long-time WoW healer on 3 classes - I don't blame them, even if it's easier to solo this game as heals than WoW). So when WE form up, we need a healer. And that means LFG.

We'd have a healer if dual specs were in the game (and they should be). We actually have too many tanks that are 45+ (4).

One sorc did respec to heals to run a couple flashpoints one day. When he saw the cost to respec back, he simply said "never again".

In so many aspects, this game is stuck in 2005. That's NOT a good thing.

I spent 100k today to respec back to tank just because we're running EV tonight.

I'm not knocking you specifically, but the fact that you did that (and it was necessary) in this game means part of this game's design is, quite simply, dumb.

I like my guild.

I like the people in my guild.

Most of us are from WoW.

Most of us are feeling constrained by this game's systems designs.

I always heal in MMOs (FFXI, EQ2, WoW, and all the 1 month MMO's I've played). I WILL heal in this one. But I made an alt Warrior (became Juggernaut) to slice, and found I liked the class, so it's now my "main" (sorc is 19). Other people in my guild are doing similar things (trying different MMO styles, etc).

And we're finding the design of the systems are hampering our fun. By that I mean no LFG tool (or a very weak one). No dual specing (pricey respecs). Really bad UI.

By hampering our fun, I mean we simply don't do things that we would in "other MMOs", like run group content as we're leveling. Because we simply don't have a healer in our dozen or so people. We WOULD have a coupe healers if dual specs were in the game. But Bioware chose a 2005 design system in 2011, and that, IMO, was bad. So we'd like an LFD tool. But again Bioware chose an outdated system here, too.

Why they did these things, I don't know. But they did. I think they were poor decisions. Most of my core guildmates agree. We HOPE things get better. Right now we're enjoying the single player experience (which is superb). But as an MMO, most of us feel that ToR is subpar. Because it feels "old".

It doesn't help that for the resources needed to run it, it really doesn't look much better than most other games that use a fraction of the power ToR does. But then again Dragon Age 1 is a 2 or 3 year old game and as of 6 months ago it ran pretty crap on very nice systems, too (while Dragon Age 2 doesn't suffer from that problem).

That's no reason to turn this game into a lobby game like WoW has become.

Well I don't feel like WoW is a lobby, but if you do, you do.

I think LFD was GOOD for WoW. I think dual specs was GOOD for WoW. I thought more than dual specs was GOOD for Rift (though I didn't stick with that game for other reasons).

I got much more enjoyment in WoW after dual specs were added (I was a resto shaman, and most non-raid days I simply did my daily dungeon and logged out, because I didn't want to go through their crap quests to level an alt, and didn't want to pay to respec to solo dailies).

I got much more enjoyment in WoW after LFD was added (because we didn't have to hope one of our guild tanks was on and wanted to run a dungeon, or spam Dalaran for a tank). I also leveled up many alts after LFD (and PvP xp) was added, because I didn't have to QUEST to level - questing is generally boring, and it's really bad in WoW - that is one area that ToR is miles ahead of WoW (and all other MMOs).

I just know that no LFD and no dual specs will lead to me PLAYING LESS (even if I'm logged in - I'm not "playing" if I'm spamming general to get a 4th person for a Flashpoint).

Me PLAYING LESS means I'm more likely to simply not subscribe. At this point in the MMO world, I think a good LFD tool and dual spec are both essential features, and ToR lacks them. Many agree, and many disagree. But since ToR does lack them, in my mind it's a "lesser" MMO than those that have the features. By not having the features, the game itself inhibits my ability to experience content (compared to other MMOs).