Never seen a valid argument against the LFD

I also miss the days when a group would wipe, laugh, try a new strategy, wipe, try again, wipe, new strategy, wipe, then FINALLY get it. What a victory. That's how brotherhoods are formed.

Nowadays if you wipe once for whatever the reason people drop group without so much as a "ty anyway" ... it's pretty pathetic.

Having no LFG system discourages me greatly to even look for groups, why should I bother? It's such an old and clunky system now to not have a LFG tool.

I use the current Swtor LFG box as a healer, put a LFG message and literally after 8 hours give up.. no one responds.

People with lives, jobs, and who value their time dislike having to waste copious amounts of it to find a group. If warzones were not instant I would probably not play them, my same sediments to the flashpoints.

I feel sorry for bioware, they spent so much time designing the flashpoints yet I've maybe run a total of 10 trips and I'm lvl 41.

This prehistoric thinking model has got to go if they want to keep people addicted to their game.

good news, there's a resonable solution that gives both sides most of what they want!

A dungeon finder system based on the same server.

Its a little slower than a cross server one, so its not perfect for the wow crowd, yet..

Its not some super immersive experiance so its not perfect for the rp server crowd

HOWEVER.
The system works for both in that it isn't an absolute affront to either.

We need SOME form of a LFG tool.

Yes, there are a few groups of players that don't have this problem, guilds that migrated here from WoW, Rift, etc... but for the GREAT majority of players, who only have an hour or two a day TOPS, time in game needs to be spent doing something fun, not sitting idle in Fleet spamming /1 waiting and begging.

I'm sure it's in the works. But there are quite a few things that need to be implemented before a LFG tool.

I'm not really against the idea of a LFG tool as much as I am it being cross-server. I played WoW from early 2005 to up until TOR came out here a few weeks ago. It was a good time, where people would wipe and get back up and try again. I believe the LFD tool most certainly caused a downward spiral in a community that wasn't the best to begin with.

As many before me have said, I remember knowing near everyone in my group. I knew if they were a good player, a bad player, a douche bag and even a ninja. You could also argue that even the paid name changes took their own toll on the community as those bad or mean players could just change their names.

The last few months I spent in WoW's LFG system were pure horror (especially before the buff to threat) as a tank. DPS going absolutely insane at every pull, doing whatever they wanted. You could argue this was just a bad DPS and not representative of the LFG system as a whole, but I disagree. Most of them would never act out and do the arrogant things they do if they knew they'd have to face their peers again.

I would completely support a LFG tool that either has no cross-server functionality or an option for a cross-server queue. I would go so far to say that the game definitely would benefit from a LFG tool that formed groups within the server boundaries. Having the option, I personally would probably stay out of the cross-server queues, but those who enjoy the quick, fast paced, lets just get it done play style would be happy. We all have our play styles and I don't think any one play style is the right way, so maybe if we could find something that would benefit us all, Bioware could improve on this concept and develop a LFG tool that works for SWTOR's community.

You never will see a valid argument. It's all emotion, opinion, and conjecture.

I haven't seen a valid argument against, either.

I think people that are against an LFD tool think "community" and "general chat spamming for groups" is the same thing.

I do that all the time as a tank.

But I'm not on the Fleet so it doesn't matter.

I'm 47, and I set my LFG note as Tank - FP my level all the time.

Of course the note changes when it feels like it to LFG, but I change it back.

But I'm on some planet doing something, and I stay there til I'm done (or have to sleep).

I finish a planet, come back to Fleet to train or buy crew skills (and it's the end of the night, so I'm about to log and sleep) and am instantly asked to tank stuff because I'm "LFG".

But I've been "LFG" for the past 3-6 hours and no one knew it.

Because I wasn't on Fleet, and the tool is awful for actually finding groups.

I'm 47 and have completed 5 of the flashpoints - not for not wanting to do them, but for not wanting to stand in the Fleet and spam for a group.

What is quite puzzling is Bioware reluctance to go for the LFD/LFR, considering it's a tremendous success for the competition

And people who so desperately want a tool only know how to get a group by spamming general.

I never have any trouble getting groups, and I've never once sat around spamming the general chat. I've never used the current LFG marker, either.

MMOs are social games. Get a guild. Quit trying to turn this into a lobby game just because you want to be anti-social.