Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

The game is still new, wait a few months at least untill you ask for dual spec. The story is still new and intriguing, if you want to specialize in another role, roll another class!

Wow...lol

These rebuttals just keep getting better and better. How does that comparison even make a lick of sense?

Whew....I want what you're having.

How does it make you half a player?

Like I said it's up to you to decide who you want to play with. If you don't want to play with the min/max crowd then don't. I certainly won't force you and I can understand that playstyle isn't for everyone.

There could be an elitist guild out there right now who views anyone who doesn't shell out for constant respecs "half a player" but guess what? It doesn't affect you or me in the slightest!

Your second argument about loot is a strawman:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_argument

I'll answer regardless, it does not affect me or the group of people with whom I decide to play with if some player out there was magically handed loot.

I feel like this argument is the same as the fast travel argument from Oblivion. Neither side is completely right, ever.

On one side you had the Morrowind fans, you didn't want fast travel, it doesn't make sense, it didn't add anything to gameplay, it was just being lazy, it takes away exploration, ect.

On the other side were Oblivion fans. Fast travel is extremely convinient, it is very hard to even play the game without it (not dificulty wise), if you don't use fast travel your just waisting time walking.

The fans that did not want it could simply choose not to use it, it's that simple.

Okay so 2 things you mention here.
1. Time...so you admit it doesn't take as long to level up a character as it does to, say get a degree...yet you want the one that doesn't take that much time given to you for free? okay. If it doesn't take that much time why not just level up again and fill in those 41 points.
2. Technical expertise..So if i want to flip from a degree in business management to a degree in construction management that would be okay because neither one of them require any technical expertise and construction is a business so the two should be interchangeable?


This game was built on LEVELS, each player can only fill one LEVEL at a time. What's wrong with having the variety to fill LEVEL 5 role in one flashpoint then LEVEL 50in another? - So we should be able to adjust levels at will, freely?

This game was built on CLASSES, each player can only fill one CLASS at a time. What's wrong with having the variety to fill Vanguard role in one flashpoint then Jedi in another? - So we should be able to change class at will?

You can change role in your quote to any other class defining thing, if you agree with being able to change every other character defining attribute at will like you want speccing, then you and I will just have to remain opposed. But wanting to be able to freely (and by freely I mean without cost) change on defining attribute of a character but not being okay with the others is illogical.

But others having it does interfere with my ability to play and my fun, I addressed this in my rant. But to summarize.
Without dualspeccing/free respecs someone has to live with whatever they choose and fill the role they chose. And everyone has to do this as the game enforces it.
WITH dualspeccing if I choose not to use it then I have to live with whatever I choose, everyone else can change their mind without cost. So the ability being in game and me choosing not to use it isn't a viable option as it puts me at the disadvantage that all the people wanting it don't want to deal with. Again why are the people wanting respecing any better than those of us that don't?


If the game branded them so i could tell then I wouldn't. I would be more okay with if the number of times they changed spec (even flipping between specs in a dual spec) or respeccing was displayed as prominently as level and class was.
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The opposite of lazy is not hard work, the oppose of lazy is just working. it doesn't have to be hard. Work cost something, time, money, energy etc. Laziness is wanting something without paying for it view time, money, etc. Tedium as youput it, is time, so time for me is a valid investment to allow for a respec. I would also allow for real life money, organ donations, etc. Just NOT FREE. If people that used respeccing/dual spec had to pay an extra monthly free in addition to the subscription OR those of us that didn't got to pay less then it wouldn't be lazy as those using it would be putting forth SOMETHING for the ability and those of us that don't want it wouldn't be paying for it.

I do not believe that tedium is the same as hard-working, but I believe wanting something for nothing is lazy. Wanting to be able to change spec without paying something (you could give up a kidney for all i care) is lazy.


I used analogies that are suppose to be fun.
Going to the movies is fun, you can't change the movie you want to watch after watching it without paying for another movie.
Going on vacation is fun, you can't change your destination after you've went without paying for another trip.
Going out to eat at a nice restaurant is fun, you can't change what you order after you take a bite without paying for another plate.

The list can go on, but you can take any other form of fun entertainment and if you change your mind after making it and enjoying the decision you made you will have to pay for the ability to change your mind.

Your'e argument that this is a video game and somehow it's "fun" is different than any other form of entertainment on the planet so it should entitle you to be able to freely change your mind without cost doesn't work out very well.





You are whining for a feature because you don't want to live with the decisions you've made?

That's the catchall argument from the "pro-make this game like WoW" movement, and it was the main argument when it first appeared in WoW. There is thousands of things that someone could do in game that doesn't affect me or my play, such as getting free raid gear, that are sill stupid.

Yes, respecs should cost a kidney! Now we are talking. Let's go Bioware, that should look good on the front page of a major newspaper!

I suspect the whole drive to deny other people respecs, even though it in no way affects their gameplay, has something to do with the fact that they want to be special after suffering through a painful tanking/healing leveling process. Because they don't feel special enough in everyday life.

@ RAMunch

Being that this topic is titled

"Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs."

And nobody in this thread has asked for the ability to change levels or class what does that have to do with anything?

How does Dual Spec negatively impact you as a player or your personal enjoyment of the game besides making you upset about how you feel other paying players should play the game?

Make it like WoW? Again I gotta have what you're smoking. It already is like WoW. Unless you're referring to some other game I am unaware of.

Free raid gear? Okay. Another great comparison that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Keep going though. You're on a roll, and I'm bored at work so it does entertain.