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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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Please allow dual spec or cap respec costs.

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HoneyBoy
01.08.2012 , 01:15 PM | #591
Quote: Originally Posted by zootzoot View Post
Why do you care why he wants to respec? Stop telling people how to have fun please.

The ability to store a second spec and a second set of Keybinds won't change the game for you at all.
I guess for some people the amount of fun they derive from this game is intrinsically tied to knowing other people can't dual spec.

I know I wouldn't be enjoying my class storylines or huttball if I knew somewhere out there a player was playing a DPS spec while having a second Heal spec stored for when they wanted to do flashpoints.

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HoneyBoy
01.08.2012 , 01:17 PM | #592
Quote: Originally Posted by Radagastimus View Post
In any terms anyone is able to play all the aspects of the game because of the companion system. You can do instances in all the specs available wiyjout changing them.

If you feel that being dps is too much restricking the amount of instances you do then by all means roll a tank or healer. 8 character slots ius quite enough. There is 4 classes per faction and 3 roles so you can very well create char of every role you like.

If group is looking for healer and you wanna help you log out and change to healer char. It is that simple. If you want to pvp you play pvp character. This also allows all your characters be ready equipped on that sinngular role they are created for without need to carry numerous outfits for different roles with you.

And if you dont have so much time to play it only prolongs you ability to enjoy the game as you have things to do for longer period of times when needing more characters than just one for all.

In general what is the purpose of class role if you can chage it on will? Why not remove specs art all then and do a character model that suits all needs?
Um hello? The purpose is this game was built around the healer/tank/DPS trinity!

How would that change if dual-spec was allowed? Look at RIFT and WoW, you can dual-spec in those games. Yet there's still class roles in them!

Is it that hard of a concept to grasp?

Dual-specing does nothing to the class role system. It just allows people some variety and can add more tanks/healers to the population pool.

Edit: As for the companion issue, I guess next time we're sitting around waiting for a healer for Hardmode Black Talon because respec costs are so high and I don't want to switch to healing I'll tell the group it's okay because my Mako can heal it.

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DaxRendar
01.08.2012 , 01:17 PM | #593
Quote: Originally Posted by Kunitsukami View Post
Why do you need to respec to do that?

I have been running PvP, Flashpoints, and questing with the same spec and it seems to be working out fine....
You must not have read my earlier posts...

I love healing in PvE/Soloing. I HATE healing in Warzone-PvP. If I care anything about being effective for my team in Warzones, I need to respec out of my "pure healer" spec.

I guess I could be just as selfish as all the Single Spec zealots and just do Warzones in my healing spec, never heal because I hate it, and if anyone questions my performance just let them know that I'm being "true to my character concept" as a PvE only healer

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Godsfear
01.08.2012 , 01:21 PM | #594
Quote: Originally Posted by Radagastimus View Post
In any terms anyone is able to play all the aspects of the game because of the companion system. You can do instances in all the specs available wiyjout changing them.

If you feel that being dps is too much restricking the amount of instances you do then by all means roll a tank or healer. 8 character slots ius quite enough. There is 4 classes per faction and 3 roles so you can very well create char of every role you like.

If group is looking for healer and you wanna help you log out and change to healer char. It is that simple. If you want to pvp you play pvp character. This also allows all your characters be ready equipped on that sinngular role they are created for without need to carry numerous outfits for different roles with you.

And if you dont have so much time to play it only prolongs you ability to enjoy the game as you have things to do for longer period of times when needing more characters than just one for all.

In general what is the purpose of class role if you can chage it on will? Why not remove specs art all then and do a character model that suits all needs?

HAHA, I love people like you telling everyone else how to play.

I play 1 toon period. I don't water down my play time or my server identity by playing alt's.

Alt's are for noobs in my personal opinion but that's my opinion and I have no problem with you rolling all the alts you like.

I don't roll alt's period. If the game requires multiple toons then I'll just quit a poorly made game.

There is nothing wrong with people respeccing. I have no problem with people playing the way they like.

don't claim to support freedom then act like a dictator.

I honestly have no idea why anyone cares what spec another player rolls except for a self centered idealism that they feel they must push on other people much like religious people.

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HoneyBoy
01.08.2012 , 01:23 PM | #595
Quote: Originally Posted by Godsfear View Post
HAHA, I love people like you telling everyone else how to play.

I play 1 toon period. I don't water down my play time or my server identity by playing alt's.

Alt's are for noobs in my personal opinion but that's my opinion and I have no problem with you rolling all the alts you like.

I don't roll alt's period. If the game requires multiple toons then I'll just quit a poorly made game.

There is nothing wrong with people respeccing. I have no problem with people playing the way they like.

don't claim to support freedom then act like a dictator.

I honestly have no idea why anyone cares what spec another player rolls except for a self centered idealism that they feel they must push on other people much like religious people.
Exactly!

I've not yet seen any person post any sort of rational argument against dual-spec on how the issue would negatively impact them personally. Just a lot of hyperbole about how anal they are when it comes to dictating how they believe others should play the game.

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zootzoot
01.08.2012 , 01:24 PM | #596
Quote: Originally Posted by Radagastimus View Post
In any terms anyone is able to play all the aspects of the game because of the companion system. You can do instances in all the specs available wiyjout changing them.

If you feel that being dps is too much restricking the amount of instances you do then by all means roll a tank or healer. 8 character slots ius quite enough. There is 4 classes per faction and 3 roles so you can very well create char of every role you like.

If group is looking for healer and you wanna help you log out and change to healer char. It is that simple. If you want to pvp you play pvp character. This also allows all your characters be ready equipped on that sinngular role they are created for without need to carry numerous outfits for different roles with you.

And if you dont have so much time to play it only prolongs you ability to enjoy the game as you have things to do for longer period of times when needing more characters than just one for all.

In general what is the purpose of class role if you can chage it on will? Why not remove specs art all then and do a character model that suits all needs?
The you need to start a nice little thread asking Bioware to remove the repsec trainer on the Fleet. Since as long as he's around there are no hard choices about specs just tedium and annoyances about changing them.

I'll ask you as well....why would my ability to store a second spec as well as the Keybinds and Hot Bar setups for that spec impact your fun in any way?

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HoneyBoy
01.08.2012 , 01:26 PM | #597
Quote: Originally Posted by zootzoot View Post
I'll ask you as well....why would my ability to store a second spec as well as the Keybinds and Hot Bar setups for that spec impact your fun in any way?
If you browse through this thread and it's many various iterations you'll see people asking this question a lot.

What you won't see however are any answers to it outside the realm of:

"All people should play the way I see fit".

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Crazyflames
01.08.2012 , 01:28 PM | #598
I hope they do not put in dual spec. Since this game started without it adding it puts in alot of problems. The main problem is with loot rules, people saying OH thats for my offspec "needs item of huge value".
"Sir, we are surrounded!"
"Excellent, we can attack in any direction!"

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GarbonzotheDude
01.08.2012 , 01:28 PM | #599
Quote: Originally Posted by Radagastimus View Post
In general what is the purpose of class role if you can chage it on will? Why not remove specs art all then and do a character model that suits all needs?
Must have missed the memo where me being able to dual spec somehow allows me to go from being a healer to a tank. Feel free to tell me how this is going to be possible.

You do realize that plenty of other games have this feature and it has not effected people's class roles in the least right?

If this were to do anything it would make forming groups easier for people because there are some that would choose a separate build for PvE as well that could be used as support, tanking or healing in addition to their main preference which in most cases for those types of players is dps.

Furthermore, if this really would "destroy class roles" then why the **** would they allow for you to respec at all on an unlimited basis for credits?

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dargor-
01.08.2012 , 01:29 PM | #600
Quote: Originally Posted by Crazyflames View Post
I hope they do not put in dual spec. Since this game started without it adding it puts in alot of problems. The main problem is with loot rules, people saying OH thats for my offspec "needs item of huge value".
People already do that exact thing for companions bub, try harder next time.

Quote: Originally Posted by HoneyBoy View Post
If you browse through this thread and it's many various iterations you'll see people asking this question a lot.

What you won't see however are any answers to it outside the realm of:

"All people should play the way I see fit".
Exactly

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Quote: Originally Posted by Creslan
And PVP hardcores are second class citizens. You're like the guest that won't leave and can't take a hint your not wanted so you just hang around making it miserable for everyone else at the party.
Indeed.