Ignorance about Sorc OP'ness

You specced a scoundrel with a shadow talent tree? Impressive.

I shall assume you meant "the middle one", scrapper.

Scoundrels do seem to be rather lacking in sorcerer-killing abilities. The melee classes are much better at taking them out. I suggest you would be better served by making marauders your priority target - and given the armor-cutting ability of a scoundrel, the tank classes are also your prey. Shadows are the stealth class best suited to killing sorcerers.

But you seem to be complaining that scoundrels should be a ganking class and you can't gank with it. No class is supposed to be able to do that. Every character is tough to kill solo - some classes are better able to beat down others, but in all cases you're looking at a fight that lasts upwards of 20 seconds.

Scoundrels start out with a huge burst of damage. After this, they're supposed to fight.

(Find you're getting killed much quicker than this in pvp? Either you're doing something wrong, or far more likely, there was somebody else attacking you that you didn't notice. Everybody dies to focus fire)

Sorc and BH are both OP. That's the way it is. You can try and make any argument you like to say you're not OP but you are. We know it, you know it, and BioWare knows it. It doesn't make it good or bad, it just is what it is.

Sorc and BH are both OP. That's the way it is. You can try and make any argument you like to say you're not OP but you are. We know it, you know it, and BioWare knows it. It doesn't make it good or bad, it just is what it is.

You forgot that you harassing them makes them have to heal THEMSELVES continuously, thus taking them effectively out of the fight. They can't do damage to you if you damage them and they have to heal. And you can do more damage than they can heal.



A heal specced sage/sorc can have a lot of energy, because they have a skill to refill 8% of their mana if a channeled heal crits. Interrupt their channeled heal and you got them. Also, this skill reduces natural force regeneration by 25% for 10 seconds and stacks up to (who would have guessed) 4 times which makes it 100% regeneration reduction.



The 120k at lvl 12 is a lie.
Other than that, I've seen people do 700k damage, so how is 400k healing overpowered? Again, for so much healing they have to heal exclusively and not do damage.



Sorcs/Sages are OP because 90% of the people are too stupid to focus them down. If people don't target the healer, they get what they deserve.

Healing OP - you made my day, lol.

i really appreciate seeing alot of the usual sorc/sage complaints that came up, and then how those complaints are diffused with corrections and hard numbers.

for all of the cc talk we havent touched on a very important point: resolve. this game mechanic makes any class with more than 2 cc's stop and reconsider their uses.

example: previous poster outlined how a talented whirlwind, when broken, will stun the target for 2 seconds. thats 2 cc's. that will basically fill a resolve bar. that means in 2 seconds that target is about to become one unstoppable force. this also works for operatives and their now criticized opening damage. after their knockdown stun they also mostly fill a resolve bar and must wait for it to cooldown before applying their next major cc.

We don't have any Oh sh** abilities to keep us alive