Champion bags, tell me how you feel.

Makes me feel good knowing that keyboard turning noobs can get gear just as easily as anyone else.


Why dosn't anyone want a rated system with real rewards?

The problem with the bags is that they're intended to be:

"This bag has commendations for Centurion gear. You MIGHT get lucky and get a piece of Champion as a bonus."

But everyone looks at them like this:

"This bag has Champion gear. You MIGHT get screwed and get commendations as a slap in the face."

That is because the bags are the only way to get champion gear and champion gear is just straight up better than centurion gear.

So really the champion gear isn't the bonus it is the goal for people opening bags.

It's not the only way to get champion gear.

I got 3 relics, 3 bracers, 2 boots, helm, gloves, ear piece, implant.. I think I'm doing well

I had to buy chest and skirt, still need a belt and another implant

So about how many dailies and weeklys for battlemaster bags do you need to do then to get 1 piece of champion gear?

Seeing as the cheapest one is 24 champion tokens and the most expensive is 123 champion tokens it is probably a long time.

It's just so silly. I have opened 20 champion bags and still don't have a single piece of champion gear. A guildie opened his first 5 bags today and got 4 pieces.

57 bags here and sofar i only got my head and offhand. This system is totally messed up.

Pretty much this ... the bags should be called centurion bags.

It's a bad system all around. It's overly complex, which is always a bad design decision. One issue that confuses me is you get champion bags, but they give centurion tokens (which is the next rank up). With those tokens you buy centurion gear. Ok, I get that much.

But how come there is no way to buy the CHAMPION gear you want? Why must it all be RNG generated? You can buy Centurion gear with tokens but not champion. Getting champion gear is all hit or miss luck.

And how do they do battlemaster? Do you get Centurion bags that have battlemaster tokens in them and random centurion gear? If so, that means you can buy centurion and BM gear you want once you get the tokens. This is not the case with champion -- it appears to be all RNG. Just doesn't make sense to me.

It would be easier to do what everyone else does: Make it so the three PvP vendors only allow you to buy from them at certain valor ranks. Make them all use the same currency (of course BM gear will be much more expensive than Champion). To me, this is simple and still makes the gear just as "difficult" and time consuming to get without making it a complex puzzle.