On a 1-10 scale, how happy are you with PvP?

3. Not so much because of balance, but because of there being no overlining story or incentive with PvP. We really need a galactic conquest thing like the Warhammer online RvR lakes. That was interesting.

The real reason it's a 3 though is the terrible gear acquisition system. Not only is the mod mod system completely redundant at endgame due to not being able to take out the set bonuses or Expertise rating in terms of visual customization, but getting the gear in the first place is terrible. Two different types of currencies to get a bag that gives you an extremely small amount of a third currency and a random chance at a gear drop? Then later on you get ANOTHER currency?

Bioware needs to simplify this system and remove the stupid from it. PvPers like to see direct reward to effort conversion.. not RNG. Remove the needs for all these different currencies, my currency tab is a mess. Remove the random loot drop.

Let there be only 1 type of currency and base the tiers off of valor level, and for Cthulu's sake don't make the commendation costs ridiculous.

3/10

Too much Warhammer Online. They figured that the best way to balance the game was to give everyone a knockback, a stun, three roots, a slow and two interrupts and boy... does it get old fast. Then because tanks have a guard power, they needed to give heals a -30% innate debuff. What a great solution.

Unresponsive abilities, poor combat feedback, class imbalance, poor class mechanics, gimmicky warzones, RNG gearing... the list of gripes is almost endless.

Even the classes just end up feeling like X DPS from Y range. The classes just aren't that unique. You fight against a bounty hunter all he's going to do is tracer missile spam you unless you give him a reason to have to use something else. Every inquisitor just spams force lightning until he can get an instant proc. etc. etc.

There's just no elegance to the PvP in this game.

TLDR: 5/10

Pros:
-Fairly solid, developed instanced pvp available right at launch including 3 warzones and an open world pvp area, albeit unfinished. Maybe I should start expecting this, but several other AAA mmos in somewhat recent history did not launch with this level of instanced pvp infrastructure ready to go out of the box. So, yeah, points for that.
-The maps are pretty good, but nothing outstanding. Each map is different. I see potential for future development, but the offering of maps right now are just pretty good.
-Pvp is pretty familiar, which is good in some ways.

Cons:
-Lag, seriously....lag
-Isolated, single faction planets really really make me sad at the lost potential for world pvp. Put two opposing towns on either end of a zone and it encourages all sorts of additional layers of gameplay, including pvp.
-More lag
-Can't solo queue for a specific warzone?
-Everyone playing in the same pool despite level differences or attempts at bolstering. Having a 50's BG will help.
-There's the lag issue.
-no very large scale warzone
-the mmo curse of not being able to mix up your character's role without a respec
-trying something new with huttball flopped (imo) yet the other two maps seem somewhat dated / stale / unimaginative in terms of game design and experience.
-constant, oppressive lag
-*** is that timer / forcefield barrier at the spawn point? I'd love a countdown spawn clock once the game starts. Due to the LAG the graphics on the force field don't always work as intended. Or, I don't know, just let us run out once we spawn, and apply the timer to the actual spawn time instead of trapping us in a little box while we wait and stare at the damn forcefield.

Overall, I still enjoy pvp in small doses, but wish they'd fix the lag, and really wish they'd improve world pvp. Not terrible, not great 5/10.

3/10

its fun when u first start and your leveling and especially when teh game was still "new", now its a grind and annoying

its mostly just stun stun stun stun stun, or u play someone with champion gear and it st.....oh im dead, crap

like mentioned to many currencies, awful dailies to get them, weeklies are mostly just traded on ilum which allows ppl to get to the top easier, grinding to 60 valor is annoying when you cant stand warzoning either due to having a severely imbalanced server, on mine the "top republic" pvpers never seem to show

once u get to 50 if you think it'll get better, wrong, its just more annoying to think why am i at 50 getting owned.....oh they have pvp gear, even when u get the gear, with most peoples luck you will get it slowly and get mostly relics, and then you go into a warzone and just get owned

pre-mades, the excuse, but my friends want to play with me! well i dont carea bout your friends and most of the time its just people want to pre-made faceroll, id like the option to cue for non pre-mades although i doubt itll chance it when your 50 and theres onyl so many pvping anyway, im just tired of the excuse well u can get your friends to pvp to, great my lower level friends, or my friends who dont pvp, yah thats an even match!

did i mention pvp isnt fun anymore? unless your an op class or roll with a few healers who can follow you around cleaning up your mess

classes that can dps and heal are way to strong, i play a shadow, i use shadow technique, i cant off tank, i cant guard, how come a full dps spec can heal? and give them expertise, the heals are better, great! really need to force ppl to pick for pvp, damage, or healing, allowing both severely warps the pvp in this game, most of the op classes can heal to, hmmm coincidence?

edit: gonna add some more, for one huttball is annoying, if tied the team with the ball or team who held it last wins, lame, teams just sit around healing the ball carrier, yah thats fun, id rather it be a tie then lose to that crap

7/10

-1 for warzone lag
-1 bags system its very very not funny when you pvp almost constantly from 40 till you are caped on comendations then guy that started to pvp after he hit 50 for like 3 days already has more pieces than you while playing maybe 30% of time.
-1 some clases and some abilities need to be tweaked

im like 2 because the skin is almost star wars.

gameplay dynamics physix sounds is more like 1


its really sad because this game has so much potential


pvp is absolutely no fun !

hope for decent changes but it almost has to be a 80% polishing

there's no way you are not the president of bioware trying to get more customers, 7/10 is *********** absurd. warzone lag alone is -5

2/10

They have still yet to add a warzone that is about actual PVP..
Same issue Wow has.. Carrying a flag killing an npc or clicking turret consoles.. Is not pvp..

Make a deathmatch warzone where the first team hitting 50 kill or maybe 100 wins..

That is real pvp..

And ofc all the issues that has been said 100 times in this thread lag, buggy abilities, resolve being a terrible idea... Knockbacks making a capture the flag on catwalks and so and so on..
Also 90% of all games being huttball..

Quoted and emphasized the most truthful words.

For addition:
- Remove tank gear from the PVP sets and do not allow tank specific talents to benefit in PVP. Have had various huttball games with 25k+ hp tanks just grab the ball and run to the other side. Especially if they receive healing, it takes the entire team to kill such a player. (Remember vanilla Warlocks?)
- Change the huttball reward system to provide more valor and commendations for a 6 score win opposed to farming the opponent. Right now we spend entire evenings against the same pre made over and over who just scores 3x and then spends 15 minutes farming players as it's more rewarding. No problem with a better and stronger opponent as long as it's over fast and mildly rewarding vs not at all. (100 commendations/hour for loosing doesn't compare at all with the amount they get for farming)

I would give it a 3.

Only game i have playd that had more boreing pvp then tor is lotro, warhammer atleast was fun a few months compared to swtor where i got bored of pvp on the 2nd day.

Rest of the game is pretty good but the pvp part is a disaster.