This game needs a random dungeon finder.

The two aren't at all comparable. You guys are all playing the same game, not people with no thread connecting you but commerce. If I played chess with someone at the park and really had a good time, I don't think it would be weird to ask if they wanted to play some more chess when we both have some time. In fact, it'd be just great.

But yes, it does. You need to stop thinking about the people playing this game as disparate strangers and more like a bunch of players playing chess in the park. I might not share my entire life with them, but it would be weird if we didn't talk about chess, play it together, and plan to play some more later.

Of course they're comparable... one thread is commerce, another thread is recreation. But they still describe the same thing... strangers get together, have a pleasant social experience, go their seperate ways. This is essentially the structure an random dungeon tool would have.

The point I'm trying to make here is that although I don't have a friends list like yours, or people asking me to group up, I can still embrace the concept of an MMO by getting together with people randomly and still have a good time. Sure you will meet some unpleasant people, but that's something that doesn't bother me. If I meet someone I don't like well thats just an expected part of socialising.

All a lfd tool does is eliminate the frustration of constantly spamming for a group especially but certainly not exclusively for people that may be guildless, play more casually, play off peak hours, have low pop servers, etc.

It has had minimal negative affect in wow in the seven years I played it in my experience and tons more positives. I mean come on, do you think that a game like that would continue to use that tool if it was so bad and didn't have safeguards etc.? Half the stuff I hear people claim it causes in these threads are either exaggerations or flat out lies.

As is was in the beginning: guildies and friends first. The everyone else. You 'can' still get people you met on the server. When I played you check your guild and friends list first then queue up for whatever you're missing and do other fun stuff while you wait.

That 'community' is still there, but come on.The reality is this is an online game. Even in all the guilds I was in, I can't say I would necessarily want to meet most of them irl...
Some of you are taking this idea way too far. I pay to be entertained not to create 'a village' on line. And this archaic hassle is not entertainment when I can't even enjoy the content that's offerred.